Should Snyder listen to his players?

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Hog1

One thing that I have to give to Dan's side is that basically he has been tried and convicted of being a pompous, cretanic, uncaring bastard, etc on the basis of?????
Anybody had any direct contact with him?
He may be, but to my knowledge, nobody here can.....legitimately substantiate it

The majority of the criticism leveled towards Snyder is not on a personal basis, it has more to do with the way he has run the team for the last decade. He could be the greatest guy in the world for all we know of him on a personal level, it's the football decisions he makes that has for a long time rubbed people the wrong way.

[T.A.P.O.A.F.O.R.]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

The majority of the criticism leveled towards Snyder is not on a personal basis, it has more to do with the way he has run the team for the last decade. He could be the greatest guy in the world for all we know of him on a personal level, it's the football decisions he makes that has for a long time rubbed people the wrong way.

not sure i totally agree. most of the local writers have been reasonable, but i think the more national figures always add this personal note. i mean jimmy johnson was condescending i thought. i even remember madden in the first few years of snyder making some fairly unprofessional comments from the booth. i think snyder really rubbed some people the wrong way, and those in a less rigorous media have let him know it.

[DFI]

that's a good read

[53Fan]

A good read and I agree with Matt. You hear so many stories about disgruntled players like Lavar running Snyder into the ground, I was kinda surprised to read Matt say how much Dan is liked by the players. He says he's never seen an owner called out by the players like this before. Will it do any good for Snyder to hear it from the players? I guess we'll see.

[70Chip]

Snyder should go skiing in Switzerland... until February. Make that June.

[GMScud]

That was a good read. It sickens me to think of the success we've been missing out on over the last decade. If we could only match up a solid GM with Snyder's willingness to spend and desire to win....

It's pretty amazing that someone who supposedly wants to win more than anything just can't get out of his own way.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by GMScud

That was a good read. It sickens me to think of the success we've been missing out on over the last decade. If we could only match up a solid GM with Snyder's willingness to spend and desire to win....

It's pretty amazing that someone who supposedly wants to win more than anything just can't get out of his own way.

Sometimes it takes a team or business to almost fall apart before the boss or owner can see how flawed their thinking really is.

[skinsfan_nn]

Hell no! If the players were doing there job on the field we wouldn't have a thread of this nature, and YES of course Zorn does take a fair share of that responsibility. Bottom line in my opinion Zorn was no where close to being ready for a HC candidate. Do the players run the team OR the coach, we know who owns the team the man that pays the bills. I want a STRONG leader (HC) at the helm that runs the team not vise versa, something I strongly believe (Even as nice a guy as Zorn appears to be) Zorn is not a leader a men.

If it's my team the last people I would be listening to are the underachieving players (And how many are really wanting Zorn to be around..? Unnamed sources?). That I'm paying!

The players need to just play, put up OR shut-up, and stop listening to the media (Blaming the media as I read yesterday, what a joke). Whoever the Coach ends up being needs to Coach, apparently old school style with this group. While the owner pays the bills and the ultimate decision on who he decides to Coach this team is up to him. I wouldn't blame lil Danny boy one bit if he fired Zorn, its a tough business. Based on production. The SKINS 4-10 in the last fourteen, with ZERO signs of improvement, if anything we are in reverse. Thats the kind of production that will not be acceptable in DC OR just about anywhere else.

[SFREDSKIN]

Great read, my beef is with VC. Is he not the acting GM? Snyder is a passionate fan just like pretty much all of us, he needs to realize that you build a franchise not buy one. I hope after this year that he has learned that lesson.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Great read, my beef is with VC. Is he not the acting GM? Snyder is a passionate fan just like pretty much all of us, he needs to realize that you build a franchise not buy one. I hope after this year that he has learned that lesson.

That presupposes Snyder has given Vinny complete control and has no input whatsoever. Snyder didn't give Vinny the keys to car and walk away. I believe Vinny is front man for what Snyder really wants to do. If it doesn't work, Cerrato conveniently gets the blame, but nothing ever happens to him.

And that's why nothing ever will happen to him. Snyder has "suggestions" *wink, wink*, and what's Vinny going to do? He certainly can't overrule Snyder.

Snyder = Emperor Palpatine.

[SBXVII]

When I heard this I was unsure how to take this. My first few thoughts were...

1. The players are afraid of who might be brought in as HC.
2. The players are afraid to lose their club med lifestyle
3. Players know that if there is a change, "Rebuild" mode maybe eminent. Which means they may be cut or traded.
4. Players are feigning loyalty for some reason. Perhaps players went to Snyder and complained that Zorn doesn't have a clue, Zorn found out and now players are covering their tracks.

[warpaint]

DS should not listen to those over paid fools.He needs to get someone in there that he can listen two Mike Holmgren GM.

[CultBrennan59]

Should he; yes. Will he; no.

[KI Skins Fan]

So are these players saying that they can't play hard unless they know that Jim Zorn will be around for the rest of the season? Here's an idea: Why don't the players play hard and blow out KC instead of asking management to do something that management won't do at this time, namely, endorse Jim Zorn. Blowing out KC would do far more for Jim Zorn's future as the Redskins HC than any words of support could ever do.

This is a team that hasn't played hard for their HC since the opening game of the season. If they truly care about him then why won't they play hard for him?

There are some real good talkers on this team. Players talk about the owner, the FO, the other players. Then, when they're on the field and it's time to reach down and summon the extra effort needed to win, they don't do it.

I say to the Redskins players, if you really want to keep Jim Zorn as your coach, then come out with a purpose on Sunday and blow out the KC Chiefs.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

So are these players saying that they can't play hard unless they know that Jim Zorn will be around for the rest of the season? Here's an idea: Why don't the players play hard and blow out KC instead of asking management to do something that management won't do at this time, namely, endorse Jim Zorn. Blowing out KC would do far more for Jim Zorn's future as the Redskins HC than any words of support could ever do.

This is a team that hasn't played hard for their HC since the opening game of the season. If they truly care about him then why won't they play hard for him?

There are some real good talkers on this team. Players talk about the owner, the FO, the other players. Then, when they're on the field and it's time to reach down and summon the extra effort needed to win, they don't do it.

I say to the Redskins players, if you really want to keep Jim Zorn as your coach, then come out with a purpose on Sunday and blow out the KC Chiefs.

As much as I've complained about the FO not coming out in support of their coach, I still agree with this. Take it into your own hands players. If you want Zorn to be your coach. WIN for him!