Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins vs. Chiefs)

[MTK]

I think it's official now, Zorn and JC are done in D.C.

I've got my fingers crossed that some good can come out of this disaster of a season. With the team falling flat on their faces, perhaps this is the wake up call Snyder needs.

Also, with the possibility of no cap next year, can we please dump Portis? I used to be a big backer of his but I think he represents all that is wrong with the Redskins right now. He's overpaid and he underproduces, and he even though he comes to play on Sundays, the fact he sets his own practice schedule sends the wrong message. We need a team full of blue collar guys who give 110% during the week in practice AS WELL as on Sundays.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think it's official now, Zorn and JC are done in D.C.

I've got my fingers crossed that some good can come out of this disaster of a season. With the team falling flat on their faces, perhaps this is the wake up call Snyder needs.

Also, with the possibility of no cap next year, can we please dump Portis? I used to be a big backer of his but I think he represents all that is wrong with the Redskins right now. He's overpaid and he underproduces, and he even though he comes to play on Sundays, the fact he sets his own practice schedule sends the wrong message. We need a team full of blue collar guys who give 110% during the week in practice AS WELL as on Sundays.

Agreed. Portis' time is past. And I never have understood why he was given so many passes regarding practice. As you said, it sends the wrong message.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think it's official now, Zorn and JC are done in D.C.

I've got my fingers crossed that some good can come out of this disaster of a season. With the team falling flat on their faces, perhaps this is the wake up call Snyder needs.

Also, with the possibility of no cap next year, can we please dump Portis? I used to be a big backer of his but I think he represents all that is wrong with the Redskins right now. He's overpaid and he underproduces, and he even though he comes to play on Sundays, the fact he sets his own practice schedule sends the wrong message. We need a team full of blue collar guys who give 110% during the week in practice AS WELL as on Sundays.

I agree and have been saying it for awhile. Portis absolutely represents what is wrong with this team. Last year when he threw Zorn under the bus and Vinny and others said, "Oh thats just Clinton being Clinton", it about made me sick. Undermining the HC and whining about playing time when you won't even practice is not how you win in this league. He's been a prima donna since he's been here with the cooperation of the FO and he has sent the wrong message to his team mates from day one. He sets a bad example and can't help but fall over his own feet when he runs. He runs into the back of his linemen instead of cutting to an open lane then calls out his blockers. His act grew old with me long ago, and I'll be glad to see him gone.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think it's official now, Zorn and JC are done in D.C.

I've got my fingers crossed that some good can come out of this disaster of a season. With the team falling flat on their faces, perhaps this is the wake up call Snyder needs.

Also, with the possibility of no cap next year, can we please dump Portis? I used to be a big backer of his but I think he represents all that is wrong with the Redskins right now. He's overpaid and he underproduces, and he even though he comes to play on Sundays, the fact he sets his own practice schedule sends the wrong message. We need a team full of blue collar guys who give 110% during the week in practice AS WELL as on Sundays.

Perhaps some good will come from this. The realization that we're not a player or two away is a good thing.

I"m about done w/ alot of players on the skins, but yes, CP is one of them. I like the way he plays on Sundays, but he's slowed down in recent years. I don't think he's a pure #1 starting RB anymore. He couldn't really out run Sellers on his long run yesterday. Just watch another game and tell me CP's not slowed down. Love the guy, but we've got to move on. Anyone watch Ray Rice lately?

[jamf]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Also, with the possibility of no cap next year, can we please dump Portis? I used to be a big backer of his but I think he represents all that is wrong with the Redskins right now. He's overpaid and he underproduces, and he even though he comes to play on Sundays, the fact he sets his own practice schedule sends the wrong message. We need a team full of blue collar guys who give 110% during the week in practice AS WELL as on Sundays.

I don't agree with your assessment of his production. look at the drop off when we put Ladell in the game... Portis is doing a solid job with this horrible line. Obviously I'm still a Portis supporter.
BTW, He is #7 in the league in rushing. Imagine where he would be if we could convert 3rd downs or take a lead into the 4th quarter.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jamf

I don't agree with your assessment of his production. look at the drop off when we put Ladell in the game... Portis is doing a solid job with this horrible line. Obviously I'm still a Portis supporter.
BTW, He is #7 in the league in rushing. Imagine where he would be if we could convert 3rd downs or take a lead into the 4th quarter.

Considering what he gets paid are you happy with his production? He's had a nice run in D.C., but I think it's time to get rid of some of these fat-cat players.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Also, with the possibility of no cap next year, can we please dump Portis? I used to be a big backer of his but I think he represents all that is wrong with the Redskins right now. He's overpaid and he underproduces, and he even though he comes to play on Sundays, the fact he sets his own practice schedule sends the wrong message. We need a team full of blue collar guys who give 110% during the week in practice AS WELL as on Sundays.

its like you almost cut and pasted one of my posts this offseason (that you and others blasted me for saying there is no stat for heart, Cp coming off a 1500 yd season is not a prob etc.)

sorry but when i made posts like yours i got the "good grief", , "you know nothing about football" responses from you and others.

now you believe in heart? now you believe winning requires 110% with players like london fletcher, not the likes of CP and moss?

go skins!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

its like you almost cut and pasted one of my posts this offseason (that you and others blasted me for saying there is no stat for heart, Cp coming off a 1500 yd season is not a prob etc.)

sorry but when i made posts like yours i got the "good grief", , "you know nothing about football" responses from you and others.

now you believe in heart? now you believe winning requires 110% with players like london fletcher, not the likes of CP and moss?

go skins!

I've changed my mind. I've freely admitted to being wrong in the past about things, I know some here are never wrong, but I know I am.

But I find it hard to believe I would have told you that you know nothing about football. At the time I have may disagreed with you, but spare me the drama.

Good for you if you saw this coming. Give yourself a big pat on the back. I think I need to start keeping score of when I'm right and others are wrong. Seems to be the popular thing to do these days.