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Old 10-19-2009, 01:02 PM   #1
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But what numbers is he putting up? His rating is good but he completes passes for very little yardage which means he throws a bunch of dink passes that skews his rating for the better.
As I pointed out last week, he's got a higher YPA than Brady, McNabb, Cutler, Warner & Palmer. Seriously, it's sad how misinformed his detractors are.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:08 PM   #2
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As I pointed out last week, he's got a higher YPA than Brady, McNabb, Cutler, Warner & Palmer. Seriously, it's sad how misinformed his detractors are.
Those players you mention throw down the field and miss more often than a 2 yard dink passer. Those misses are zeros in calculating the average and those zeros bring down the average. Like others have said, the numbers dont tell the whole story because to insinuate that JC is even close to those QBs you mentioned is insane.
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Those players you mention throw down the field and miss more often than a 2 yard dink passer. Those misses are zeros in calculating the average and those zeros bring down the average. Like others have said, the numbers dont tell the whole story because to insinuate that JC is even close to those QBs you mentioned is insane.
So the deep passes Campbell missed on the past few weeks didn't count in his average? Completion percentage would be highly driven by 2 yard dink passes, yards per attempt would be adversely affected by a majority of those.

I didn't compare him to any of those QB, simply pointed out the gaping flaw in your simplistic and inaccurate criticism.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:22 PM   #4
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So the deep passes Campbell missed on the past few weeks didn't count in his average? Completion percentage would be highly driven by 2 yard dink passes, yards per attempt would be adversely affected by a majority of those.

I didn't compare him to any of those QB, simply pointed out the gaping flaw in your simplistic and inaccurate criticism.
Sure it counts, he throws maybe 2 passes longer than a few yards per game so he doesnt have many zeros. The other QBs throw a lot more longers passes.
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Those players you mention throw down the field and miss more often than a 2 yard dink passer. Those misses are zeros in calculating the average and those zeros bring down the average. Like others have said, the numbers dont tell the whole story because to insinuate that JC is even close to those QBs you mentioned is insane.
I don't think you understand what YPA is. It's also one of the four components in QB rating, so by extension, you don't really know what that is either.
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As I pointed out last week, he's got a higher YPA than Brady, McNabb, Cutler, Warner & Palmer. Seriously, it's sad how misinformed his detractors are.
You really put JC in the same sentence with Brady, McNadd, Warner & Palmer?
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Old 10-19-2009, 04:02 PM   #7
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You really put JC in the same sentence with Brady, McNadd, Warner & Palmer?
Some people like stats and think that it tells the whole story.
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Old 10-19-2009, 07:36 PM   #8
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You really put JC in the same sentence with Brady, McNadd, Warner & Palmer?
In the context of dispelling a ridiculous criticism, yes. Not comparing him to them but if you're going to criticize, at least be accurate in your criticism.
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You really put JC in the same sentence with Brady, McNadd, Warner & Palmer?
You have to, the numbers are there, and these QBs have been in the same Offense for years. JC's 5th year in the league and he has had 3 different Offenses to learn. Name one of those Qbs that has changed offenses in the last four seasons.
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You have to, the numbers are there, and these QBs have been in the same Offense for years. JC's 5th year in the league and he has had 3 different Offenses to learn. Name one of those Qbs that has changed offenses in the last four seasons.
JC is nowhere near any of those QB's. you can pull the numbers all you want but it comes down to W's. we couldnt score a td on the worst defense in the league and there are QB's like Rodgers who get hit just about every play and still put up points so its hard to blame it all on the oline.
The different system excuse is old,please let it go.
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