Reputation of Sherman Lewis- our new play caller

[53Fan]

Well Lewis has a lot of experience in the WCO but his track record for playcalling isn't very good. Compared to Zorn though, it might be great and we get more production.... or we might find that playcalling hasn't been the problem, it's the players. It's probably a little of both. Either way it should be interesting. Since we really have no control in what we do we might as well hope for the best. Zorn's playcalling has been criticized repeatedly, so if that is the problem, maybe mixing things up can help. If things go further south, I can't see Vinny getting out of this unscathed since most of these changes seem to be his decisions. I think they saw the kind of man they wanted to lead this team in Zorn, but they don't know how to handle the adversity now that things haven't gone as planned. The way I see it, either things work out, which would be great, or Vinny ends up looking desperate and incompetent which should lead to change and that wouldn't suck either.

[tryfuhl]

Covering it on espn they showed a lot of the mistakes, lack of execution, and were like "oh yeah, that's zorn's fault too" "ooo fumble, zorn's fault" .. then after bringing collins in "oh yeah, campbell was the issue.." etc

we do rank number 1 in fumbles though and zorn needs to make sure that's fixed immediately, no excuse for all of them, especially just on shotgun snaps

went on to mention vinny brought zorn in, most of the personnel decisions are on him, etc

stuff that we all knew and have mentioned for awhile, but have passed by on the news, but now they're actually giving us significant airtime, I guess that's a good thing

won't hear anybody saying that there's a media bias now. and everyone finally has to admit that there hasn't really been

[DynamiteRave]

Lewis is old. Not saying that old dude's cant hack it. But he's been out of football for quite some time hasn't he? I heard some of the team hadn't even met him yet.. Can't say that bodes well for the Monday night's game..

[BDBohnzie]

Again, another band-aid that Snyder and Cerrato are putting on a severed leg. There is no reason to make this move unless you are looking to remove Zorn at some point during the year.

[Longtimefan]

Monday night's game cannot come fast enough for me. As improbable as it may be, it will be real interesting to hear what's going to be said if Lewis dials up a game with the highest scoring out-put so far this season. Matters less if he's old, decrepit, or crazy if he can call a winning formula. The payers don't have to know his name or what he looks like, just "execute" the plays called.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Monday night's game cannot come fast enough for me. As improbable as it may be, it will be real interesting to hear what's going to be said if Lewis dials up a game with the highest scoring out-put so far this season. Matters less if he's old, decrepit, or crazy if he can call a winning formula. The payers don't have to know his name or what he looks like, just "execute" the plays called.

So you are asking, what happens if the team explodes offensively and puts up 18 points?

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

So you are asking, what happens if the team explodes offensively and puts up 18 points?

Considering the way things have been going 18 points would be a highlight reel.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

So you are asking, what happens if the team explodes offensively and puts up 18 points?

Sounds good to me.

Redskins 18
Eagles 11

[Beemnseven]

Will Sherman Lewis be calling plays from Jim Zorn's playbook? What difference will Lewis's calls make if the plays were drawn up and designed by Zorn?

[Swarley]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Will Sherman Lewis be calling plays from Jim Zorn's playbook? What difference will Lewis's calls make if the plays were drawn up and designed by Zorn?

It's about using the right plays at the right time. If Zorn really is scripting plays to the point where he cant react to the way the defense is playing us maybe Lewis getting a chance to call what he wants when he wants might make a difference. Not saying it will make a difference but that's the difference.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by GreekSkin

It's about using the right plays at the right time. If Zorn really is scripting plays to the point where he cant react to the way the defense is playing us maybe Lewis getting a chance to call what he wants when he wants might make a difference. Not saying it will make a difference but that's the difference.

I think there is many factors involved. We have heard that Zorn whole game plan sucks, He calls the most idiotic plays and for the first 8 weeks of last yr DC's did not believe he would call the plays called so they weren't ready for it ...now we hear the DC's are game planning around what stupid call he might call in any given situation that no other coach would call and for the most part are stopping us. We have heard he is sending in the wrong plays at the wrong time, and lately he's sending in the wrong plays with the wrong package of people on the field.

Yes it's about calling the right plays at the right time, which he has a hard time doing, but it's also about knowing what personell is on the field and calling the right play for the package on the field. Can't call package designed for Portis who is now running off the field for his one yrd run breather and try to have Betts run the play. Won't work. Part of the reason why I liked Gibbs system. Take any player out and put in any second string player and the play should still work.

[over the mountain]

lol he probably was. SS i got a question and you probably know the answer or could come up with a knowledgable opinion:

does the skins firing of zorn (when it happens) and the naming of an old guy like sherm as the interim coach now open the possibilities that a guy like gruden or shanahan will talk with the skins FO re. coaching the skins next year during this season?

whereas, if zorn was still the HC (like he is now), gruden and shanahan wont comment or honestly enter into talks with the skins FO like they are currently distancing themselves?

go skins!!

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

lol he probably was. SS i got a question and you probably know the answer or could come up with a knowledgable opinion:

does the skins firing of zorn (when it happens) and the naming of an old guy like sherm as the interim coach now open the possibilities that a guy like gruden or shanahan will talk with the skins FO re. coaching the skins next year during this season?

whereas, if zorn was still the HC (like he is now), gruden and shanahan wont comment or honestly enter into talks with the skins FO like they are currently distancing themselves?

go skins!!

I think this is part of the problem. I do think many coach's have a gentlemans agreement about not talking to an owner about a job that is already taken. Even if the HC of the team is doing poorly.

Now, rumor has it Gruden has spoken to someone off record and not associated with the Skins about how he might like the job with the Skins.

If I was DS I would fire VC or completely remove him from having anything to do with the Skins as of today. Do a search of available candidates and candidates who are currently with other teams if available. Like Poilin or whoever. If I had to wait till seasons end to conduct certain interviews then so be it and bring in the best I could and pay him well. Give the GM some ideas as to who you might like as HC but make sure everyone and all candidates know I am backing the F-off. Allowing the GM to run the team.

With that said it might, might open up a few doors into coach's that have been hesitant to come to Washington.

Hopefully after Mon. night, which I can't wait for, VC and Zorn get canned and DS can start talking to viable candidates. but I wouldn't bring them in till seasons end. My feeling is you bring them in now and people/fans get a misconception and expect the team to start winning. If they don't I could see fans wishing DS to fire the new HC. I'd name an interim HC and keep conducting interviews until seasons end with my new GM.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I think this is part of the problem. I do think many coach's have a gentlemans agreement about not talking to an owner about a job that is already taken. Even if the HC of the team is doing poorly.

Now, rumor has it Gruden has spoken to someone off record and not associated with the Skins about how he might like the job with the Skins.

If I was DS I would fire VC or completely remove him from having anything to do with the Skins as of today. Do a search of available candidates and candidates who are currently with other teams if available. Like Poilin or whoever. If I had to wait till seasons end to conduct certain interviews then so be it and bring in the best I could and pay him well. Give the GM some ideas as to who you might like as HC but make sure everyone and all candidates know I am backing the F-off. Allowing the GM to run the team.

With that said it might, might open up a few doors into coach's that have been hesitant to come to Washington.

Hopefully after Mon. night, which I can't wait for, VC and Zorn get canned and DS can start talking to viable candidates. but I wouldn't bring them in till seasons end. My feeling is you bring them in now and people/fans get a misconception and expect the team to start winning. If they don't I could see fans wishing DS to fire the new HC. I'd name an interim HC and keep conducting interviews until seasons end with my new GM.

The Redskins may want the big name coaches but remember they have to abide by the NFL Rooney Rule which they have to interview a minorty coaching canadiate. I think Greg Blache or Jerry Gray take over as interim coach.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

lol he probably was. SS i got a question and you probably know the answer or could come up with a knowledgable opinion:

does the skins firing of zorn (when it happens) and the naming of an old guy like sherm as the interim coach now open the possibilities that a guy like gruden or shanahan will talk with the skins FO re. coaching the skins next year during this season?

whereas, if zorn was still the HC (like he is now), gruden and shanahan wont comment or honestly enter into talks with the skins FO like they are currently distancing themselves?

go skins!!

Well no matter who is the coach (interim or not), I don't think any coach would speak publicly about it. But Shanahan and the Redskins have definitely been talking (at least through intermediaries) and I'm sure discussions will continue in the off-season. But Shanahan is being smart about it. Dallas and San Diego could both be options for him this off-season, so he's got some options to leverage against each other I hope he goes to San Diego and Norv goes to Dallas. That way we don't get stuck with GM Mike Shanahan and the Cowboys get stuck with Norv.

Gruden, to my knowledge, hasn't really given much thought specifically to the Redskins. He certainly wants to coach again, but he's loving what he's doing right now. And he's young enough that he could take another year off and wait for the right opportunity. And seeing how tight Gruden and Bruce Allen seem to be, I suspect they would look to go together somewhere. Or so it appears right now. Then again, Allen has been rumored to the Bills. But I'd be surprised to see the Bills pay for Gruden as well