Here's our chance for Jeff Fisher

calia · 10-21-2009, 01:39 PM

I don't understand the original post and the reference to Cowher -- and spoecifically the statement about what's he done in 14 years at Pittsburgh. A lot, actually. He's had great teams, won a SB, and not with big name, flashy guys, but blue collar workhorses (kind of like the old Redskins teams). Pittsburgh never goes crazy in free agency, they seem to have managed the cap well, and he's done with while grooming a group of excellent young coaches (Tomlin, Whisenhunt, Grimm) -- and it takes good coaching all around to win. Most of the great head coaches had great assistants, and Cowher knows how to develop them. Plus, I wouldn't mind a head coach with some fire.

Having said all of that, he's probably looking at the Redskins franchise right now and thinking to himself that there are 1000 things he'd rather do that get bogged down with this mess.

redsk1 · 10-21-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I don't understand the love for all this guys Fisher, Gruden, Shanahan, Cowher, Shottenheimer. In my opinion they are all average, the only guys for consideration are Holmgren and Dungy. What has Fisher done in all his years in Houston/Tennesse? Shanahan without Elway? Cowher in 14/15 years in Pitt? Gruden without the team Dungy beat? Marty with his many playoff chokes. I want someone that will takes us to the SB and win. I'm sorry but none of these guys do it for me except for Holmgren and Dungy. Are we that desperate that all these guys remind you of Gibbs, Walsh, Belichick? Jack Pardee is probably available.

Tony Dungy is a good football coach however he had Peyton Manning as a QB and Tom Moore as his OC. Who's there coach now? Is he great too? He's undefeated?

TD had a great D in TB and turned that organization around. His offenses were always bad. Why? B/c he didn't have a quarterback. So, i give him credit for turning around that D but I just don't see him as a top tier coach. That being said, i would be happy w/ a TD as our coach.

SFREDSKIN · 10-21-2009, 12:33 PM

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Tony Dungy is a good football coach however he had Peyton Manning as a QB and Tom Moore as his OC. Who's there coach now? Is he great too? He's undefeated?

TD had a great D in TB and turned that organization around. His offenses were always bad. Why? B/c he didn't have a quarterback. So, i give him credit for turning around that D but I just don't see him as a top tier coach. That being said, i would be happy w/ a TD as our coach.

Did he not build TB and Indy? Ok, Polian helped to.

redsk1 · 10-21-2009, 12:39 PM

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Did he not build TB and Indy? Ok, Polian helped to.

I should say TD is a very, very good coach, but I just don't give him too much credit for his Indi SB. My god, Peyton Manning should be in contention every year for a SB which he has been. TD turned around the Bucs no doubt he just never got the offense straight.

tryfuhl · 10-21-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I don't understand the love for all this guys Fisher, Gruden, Shanahan, Cowher, Shottenheimer.

You're right, who would want something like this in DC? We're truly too good for it

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He became the fifteenth head coach in Steelers history when he succeeded Chuck Noll on January 21, 1992 – but only the second head coach since the NFL merger in 1970. Under Cowher, the Steelers showed an immediate improvement from the disappointing 7-9 season the year before, going 11-5 and earning home field advantage in the AFC after the Steelers had missed the playoffs six times out of the previous seven years. In 1995, at age 38, he became the youngest coach to lead his team to a Super Bowl. Cowher is only the second coach in NFL history to lead his team to the playoffs in each of his first six seasons as head coach, joining Pro Football Hall of Fame member Paul Brown.

In Cowher’s 15 seasons, the Steelers captured eight division titles, earned ten postseason playoff berths, played in 21 playoff games, advanced to six AFC Championship games and made two Super Bowl appearances. He is one of only six coaches in NFL history to claim at least seven division titles. It has become an article of faith among NFL pundits that the Steelers do not have a bad team two years in a row – they have never lost 10 or more games in consecutive years since the 1970 NFL merger. At the conclusion of the 2005 season, the Pittsburgh Steelers had the best record of any team in the National Football League since Cowher was hired as head coach.

On February 5, 2006, Cowher's Pittsburgh Steelers won Super Bowl XL by defeating the Seattle Seahawks 21-10, giving Cowher his first Super Bowl ring.

He never had a great QB either.

MTK · 10-21-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I don't understand the love for all this guys Fisher, Gruden, Shanahan, Cowher, Shottenheimer.

Gee I don't know, they've all won a lot of games in this league, are widely respected by their peers, and there's a few SB trophies scattered in there as well.

You can spin their success any way you want, at the end of the day they're successful and proven coaches.

SBXVII · 10-21-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I don't understand the love for all this guys Fisher, Gruden, Shanahan, Cowher, Shottenheimer. In my opinion they are all average, the only guys for consideration are Holmgren and Dungy. What has Fisher done in all his years in Houston/Tennesse? Shanahan without Elway? Cowher in 14/15 years in Pitt? Gruden without the team Dungy beat? Marty with his many playoff chokes. I want someone that will takes us to the SB and win. I'm sorry but none of these guys do it for me except for Holmgren and Dungy. Are we that desperate that all these guys remind you of Gibbs, Walsh, Belichick? Jack Pardee is probably available.

Ok, Einstein....err....SFREDSKIN, aside from these so called "Average" coach's......who do you plan to pick up that has better qualifications, knows how to get to the dance, and has better stats then these HC's?

It's funny. You call them average. Stats are shown. You back peddle on two. and who else out there is going to be available with a better resumue? I guess I'm presuming your wanting a young GM picked first like most of us, and then what? A young OC from some team to be named our HC who does not have any HC resumue to speak of? No stats to show? Never been to the big dance as a HC?

Unless I'm missing someone you have picked all the HC's that are proven and called them ...."Average." Who is above "Average" and please feel free to use stats.

KLHJ2 · 10-21-2009, 12:22 PM