More dislike of Snyder: John Kent Cooke

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I don't know if our team would be playing any better on Sundays, but the franchise would probably look a little different. For one thing, I doubt we would be so reviled by the press. While Al Davis might be the butt of a lot of jokes in the press, most journalists who have met Snyder absolutely detest the man. Davis is mocked for being senile and a bad manager, Snyder is mocked for being an arrogant jerk. That's not based on the team's performance, it's based on personal interactions with the man and tales of how he treated guys like Mike Nolan, Laveranues Coles, and others. Or how Snyder derided Art Modell as someone he wouldn't want to emulate because he's won just one SB ring.

Also, Snyder has "commercialized" (for lack of a better word) the team. This is the guy who tried to charge admission to training camp. Now, Snyder is running a business and he's made the team much more profitable, but I feel like the team is trying to squeeze every little penny out of the fans. He seems to deal with the fans on an arms-length basis.

Maybe Snyder is a good guy and maybe the team's struggles aren't his fault, but most everything I've read about the guy seems to indicate that he's a world class prick. I'm amazed that a guy who has done such a poor job of interacting with the press is a marketing guru.

Very interesting post.
I really think buying the Redskins really changed Danny for the worse. The Danny was never really in the limelight until he bought the Redskins.
Jack Kent Cooke on the other hand bought the LA Lakers in 1965, built the LA Forum and created the now famous yellow and purple uniforms. He coined the term the Fabulous Forum. This guy was an amazing businessman. He also bought the LA kings. He did not become majority owner of the Skins until 1974.
JKC could handle the ego trip when his Skins finally won a SB and later three SB's and became one of the top franchises in the NFL. Hell Cooke built the current Redskins cash cow of the stadium they play in. Danny boy really did not have to do much. But yet he gets immense credit.
DS sense of reality is warped, he really acts like those three SB trophies in the case are his. Like he earned them.
He is arrogant with out earning it, so people do not respect him.
At least Al Davis has earned his SB trophies and the right to be eccentric, partly because he is really old. Danny boy has no excuse other than being really rich and lacking in the ability to run a FO. Ten difficult years later, not much has changed.
I am sure JKC could be a prick as well, but he was a respected prick. DS is just a arrogant prick that can not allow someone other then himself produce a winner in DC.

[souperbad]

...all this Norv Turner should be put in perspective.

We had a playoff team in 1999 with Norv Turner, it was the last time we won the division. It took a while....but we rebuilt the team.

The following year, Mr. Snyder came to town and...Jeff George...Deon Sanders...etc... You are really going to put the 7-6 on Norv. I would give anything for the Norv Turner years.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by souperbad

...all this Norv Turner should be put in perspective.

We had a playoff team in 1999 with Norv Turner, it was the last time we won the division. It took a while....but we rebuilt the team.

The following year, Mr. Snyder came to town and...Jeff George...Deon Sanders...etc... You are really going to put the 7-6 on Norv. I would give anything for the Norv Turner years.

Whoa nelly. While we can't say for sure what John v Snyder would look like. One thing we do have is a track record for Norv. San Diego is the epitomy of a Norv Turner coached team. 14-2 under Marty. Norv came in and it has been backtracking every year. If Norv had stayed, or continued his years here, fans would have screamed just as loud for his ouster, and cursed Snyder for keeping him.
Norv is an OC, a good one. Not a HC, not at all, not a good one.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Whoa nelly. While we can't say for sure what John v Snyder would look like. One thing we do have is a track record for Norv. San Diego is the epitomy of a Norv Turner coached team. 14-2 under Marty. Norv came in and it has been backtracking every year. If Norv had stayed, or continued his years here, fans would have screamed just as loud for his ouster, and cursed Snyder for keeping him.
Norv is an OC, a good one. Not a HC, not at all, not a good one.

See this cracks me up. Marty got fired cause he couldn't get along w/ the GM but he also couldn't advance in the playoffs. That's all that matters.....what you do in the playoffs. I'd rather go 8-8 and advance then go 14-2 and not win a game. Norv is certainly not the HC Marty is, got he's got something Marty doesn't....3 playoff wins. Marty has 0.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

See this cracks me up. Marty got fired cause he couldn't get along w/ the GM but he also couldn't advance in the playoffs. That's all that matters.....what you do in the playoffs. I'd rather go 8-8 and advance then go 14-2 and not win a game. Norv is certainly not the HC Marty is, got he's got something Marty doesn't....3 playoff wins. Marty has 0.

So the end game for NFL head coaches is...gross totals of playoff wins?

It's a good a measure as anything else, but just seems sort of arbitrary to say, "yeah, but how many playoff wins does he have?"