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Old 10-26-2009, 03:41 PM   #1
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Re: Zorn to coach the rest of the season

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Sounds like what they did to Campo in Dallas,.....Right? Jones was out having sex with Bill Parcells in the middle of the season.
And we all know Parcells is the biggest slut in the NFL. He whores himself out to everyone. lol.
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:16 AM   #2
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Re: Zorn to coach the rest of the season

I love how some posters will find negativity in this move. The masses just want to bash ownership, and that is gonna happen regardless of what they do.

This was the right move by ownership/VC. Quell the media and give Zorn support. Now ESPN and SC can stfu about firing Zorn 24/7. This doesnt mean ownership is off the hook, but for now they did the right thing by endorsing the Z-man.
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:24 AM   #3
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I love how some posters will find negativity in this move. The masses just want to bash ownership, and that is gonna happen regardless of what they do.

This was the right move by ownership/VC. Quell the media and give Zorn support. Now ESPN and SC can stfu about firing Zorn 24/7. This doesnt mean ownership is off the hook, but for now they did the right thing by endorsing the Z-man.
It's a no win at this point.
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Old 10-23-2009, 03:30 PM   #4
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It's a no win at this point.
unless we do win!
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Old 10-23-2009, 03:05 PM   #5
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I love how some posters will find negativity in this move. The masses just want to bash ownership, and that is gonna happen regardless of what they do.

This was the right move by ownership/VC. Quell the media and give Zorn support. Now ESPN and SC can stfu about firing Zorn 24/7. This doesnt mean ownership is off the hook, but for now they did the right thing by endorsing the Z-man.
Ownership and mgt deserve everything they're getting right now. And they're only endorsing him now cause Shanahan wouldn't take the job mid season.
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:18 AM   #6
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Re: Zorn to coach the rest of the season

Could serve as the public endorsement the players have been calling for. It does offer just a "little" stability to what otherwise has become a calamity. If there's any such thing as the "lesser of two evils" then Zorn is probably the best option at least until the end of the season.
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Old 10-23-2009, 12:07 PM   #7
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Could serve as the public endorsement the players have been calling for. It does offer just a "little" stability to what otherwise has become a calamity. If there's any such thing as the "lesser of two evils" then Zorn is probably the best option at least until the end of the season.
longtime fan, i like and agree with alot of your posts, this one as well sir.

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Old 10-23-2009, 09:23 AM   #8
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He does sound extremely defensive, I agree Southpaw. Def not indicative of someone who is confident in his moves, etc.
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:25 AM   #9
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Re: Zorn to coach the rest of the season

I have no problem w/ keeping JZ for the rest of the season. I just don't believe anything VC sais. Never have. If the skins lose big and get embarrassed Monday we'll see if VC meant what he said.

VC shouldn't have a radio show anyways. Earlier in the year, VC had Mel Kiper on and was talking about the Notre Dame game. I can't remember who they were playing, but VC was saying that it was a must win for Weiss in order for him to keep his job.

MK then told Vinny that the Skins needed to beat the Lions or he'd lose his job. Nice reply by Mel Kiper.
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Old 10-23-2009, 10:31 AM   #10
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I have no problem w/ keeping JZ for the rest of the season. I just don't believe anything VC sais. Never have. If the skins lose big and get embarrassed Monday we'll see if VC meant what he said.

VC shouldn't have a radio show anyways. Earlier in the year, VC had Mel Kiper on and was talking about the Notre Dame game. I can't remember who they were playing, but VC was saying that it was a must win for Weiss in order for him to keep his job.

MK then told Vinny that the Skins needed to beat the Lions or he'd lose his job. Nice reply by Mel Kiper.
I am with you on this one. This coming from VC knowing his job is on the line does not mean a whole lot other then VC is throwing it out there in hopes DS will not make a move at the break or it will make him look bad.

Also I keep reading how Zorn will keep his job but nothing in regards to whether VC keeps his job? I suspected Zorn would keep his job, even said it makes no sense to relieve him of his duties when no one else understands his plays or play calls. Unfortunatly I got caught up in all the rumors about DS trying to get someone else and wanting to fire everyone at the break. I would think DS would fire VC at the break and interview people to become the new GM....heck he can take his time, hire the new GM and allow him to evaluate the talent for the future, then at seasons end let him pick a new HC.

....But as a friend said....don't believe anything out of VC's mouth. He lies all the time and the opposite happens.
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:47 PM   #11
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I have no problem w/ keeping JZ for the rest of the season. I just don't believe anything VC sais. Never have. If the skins lose big and get embarrassed Monday we'll see if VC meant what he said.

VC shouldn't have a radio show anyways. Earlier in the year, VC had Mel Kiper on and was talking about the Notre Dame game. I can't remember who they were playing, but VC was saying that it was a must win for Weiss in order for him to keep his job.

MK then told Vinny that the Skins needed to beat the Lions or he'd lose his job. Nice reply by Mel Kiper.
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:35 AM   #12
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Re: Zorn to coach the rest of the season

I completely agree with the assertion that Vinny sounds like an idiot...just reading the transcript, it seems that he is desperately scrambling to say something, anything that gets him off the hook. He is super defensive and its clear that he is scared about his job. Good, he should be scared, when you mess up time and time again for 10 years you should have lost your job a long time ago...here's hoping no matter what happens, VC is fired. At least Zorn is a good guy who is just in over his head.
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:52 AM   #13
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Re: Zorn to coach the rest of the season

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Let me start by making a few things very perfectly clear: Jim Zorn is the head coach of the Washington Redskins, and will be for the rest of this season, and hopefully into the future.
I was listening to this on the way to work this morning, and while I listening to Vinny speak gives me a headache (my 2 year old speaks more clearly) I was struck by the "hopefully into the future" tag at the end of his endorsement. What do you suppose that really means? I suppose it could be looked at a number of different ways. The truth is that because Snyder does not speak to the media during the season, no one really knows what he is thinking, or planning to do. All the talk of Zorn and Vinny being gone at the end of the season is just that, talk. Until it comes down from the head man himself, it is nothing more than fan and media speculation. Snyder does have atrack record of decision making with coaches that is fueling the speculation, but since he does not talk, we really don't know, maybe he has learned patience ( a huge assumption on my part).
I would like to see Zorn succeed here, if only for the continuity that might be a result of his continued employment. He is far from perfect, and his limitations as a play caller and game manager have been on display for all to see, but I like the guy and think he has inherited a bad situation complete with aging, overpaid, and underachieving players. Maybe he is the guy who can turn this ship around, if given the time to do so. Changing coaches every couple of years is not a recipe for long term success.
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I was listening to this on the way to work this morning, and while I listening to Vinny speak gives me a headache (my 2 year old speaks more clearly) I was struck by the "hopefully into the future" tag at the end of his endorsement. What do you suppose that really means? I suppose it could be looked at a number of different ways. The truth is that because Snyder does not speak to the media during the season, no one really knows what he is thinking, or planning to do. All the talk of Zorn and Vinny being gone at the end of the season is just that, talk. Until it comes down from the head man himself, it is nothing more than fan and media speculation. Snyder does have atrack record of decision making with coaches that is fueling the speculation, but since he does not talk, we really don't know, maybe he has learned patience ( a huge assumption on my part).
I would like to see Zorn succeed here, if only for the continuity that might be a result of his continued employment. He is far from perfect, and his limitations as a play caller and game manager have been on display for all to see, but I like the guy and think he has inherited a bad situation complete with aging, overpaid, and underachieving players. Maybe he is the guy who can turn this ship around, if given the time to do so. Changing coaches every couple of years is not a recipe for long term success.
Uh, .....no, he calls bad plays, calls wrong plays at the wrong time, calls the wrong plays for the package he has on the field, horrible clock management, Can you say this whole thing screams of joke. We could have hired a water boy and got almost as much out of him. He was a QB coach and no different then Nor who should never be a HC and only relegated to OC or some of the others Zorn is not HC material. Atleast not yet. He easily should be a QB coach maybe tried out as a OC somewhere, but bridges have been burnt here.

I think the only reason he's staying is cause DS doesn't want to have to pay Gibbs old coach's, Zorn and any new coach's brought on. If your forced to pay them might as well pay them to embarrass themselves vs. paying them to sit at home to do nothing and pay someone else.
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Re: Zorn to coach the rest of the season

I hope this quiets down the circus for a few weeks. It's not going to change the outcome of things ultimately, but at least we can stop being the 'point and laugh' franchise in the NFL for a while.
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