Sell OUR Team Danny Boy - DC Metro Bus Ads

[hooskins]

not pro**

[KLHJ2]

What exactly is the cause? Is it to get Dan to sell the team; or is the subtext that we just want our other demands met, i.e. fire Vinny Cerrato?

If you or any of us think for one second that a man is going to sell one of the most profitable organizations on earth, then we have lost our stinkin minds. No matter how much we bitch, moan, or put billboard signs up he is not ever actually going to sell the team.

Now if we believe that we can be negotiated with and we are just setting the bar high by saying "Danny, we want you to sell the team" when we are actually hoping for the counter offer "Hey fans, how about I fire Vinny and hire a new team president and a GM", then it becomes a realistic battle and one worth fighting.

Throwing money at a cause with impossible demands is like throwing money into a fire. You will never get a penny of it back. It is just a bad investment.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Angry

What exactly is the cause? Is it to get Dan to sell the team; or is the subtext that we just want our other demands met, i.e. fire Vinny Cerrato?

If you or any of us think for one second that a man is going to sell one of the most profitable organizations on earth, then we have lost our stinkin minds. No matter how much we bitch, moan, or put billboard signs up he is not ever actually going to sell the team.

Now if we believe that we can be negotiated with and we are just setting the bar high by saying "Danny, we want you to sell the team" when we are actually hoping for the counter offer "Hey fans, how about I fire Vinny and hire a new team president and a GM", then it becomes a realistic battle and one worth fighting.

Throwing money at a cause with impossible demands is like throwing money into a fire. You will never get a penny of it back. It is just a bad investment.

again obviously he isn't goin to sell the team anytime soon, but maybe if this gets big enough and happens somthing might finally click in his head and say wow i guess the fans really do hate me and change his ways. and it isn't just throwing money away and you will never get it back if you took the time to visit the website instead of iggnorantly bashing it you would realize that if we do not reach our goal everyone gets there money back. and he does only own 51 % and some of the minortiy owners could buy him out if it comes to a point of public emmbarassment, as profitable as the redskins are i'm pretty sure fed ex is worth just a little bit more

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

again obviously he isn't goin to sell the team anytime soon, but maybe if this gets big enough and happens somthing might finally click in his head and say wow i guess the fans really do hate me and change his ways. and it isn't just throwing money away and you will never get it back if you took the time to visit the website instead of iggnorantly bashing it you would realize that if we do not reach our goal everyone gets there money back. and he does only own 51 % and some of the minortiy owners could buy him out if it comes to a point of public emmbarassment, as profitable as the redskins are i'm pretty sure fed ex is worth just a little bit more

1. There is a paradox in your bolded quotes: is there a chance that he will sell his interest in the team soon or not?

2. How do you know that a current minority partner would be better as majority owner?

3. If your true message is "Change the team," not "Sell the team," then why don't you say that? When dealing with the arrogant, the last thing that you want to do is peddle unclarity.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

again obviously he isn't goin to sell the team anytime soon, but maybe if this gets big enough and happens somthing might finally click in his head and say wow i guess the fans really do hate me and change his ways. and it isn't just throwing money away and you will never get it back if you took the time to visit the website instead of iggnorantly bashing it you would realize that if we do not reach our goal everyone gets there money back. and he does only own 51 % and some of the minortiy owners could buy him out if it comes to a point of public emmbarassment, as profitable as the redskins are i'm pretty sure fed ex is worth just a little bit more

Since when does he own only 51%

He shouldn't make decisions based on what fans think. A good owner acts in the best interest of the team, in spite of what the fans want. Some of the brightest minds out there and complete morons when it comes to their fanhood.

[SkinFanatic]

First of all, the majority ownership thing is not gonna happen. The minority owners are made up of his sister and his mother among others. I also believe that a greater part reverted to him when one of the original group, Fred Drasner, was bought out. And he'll never move the team. He's a lofelong DC guy and the league makes it too difficult anyway (I wonder how the other owners would feel about a request to move due to being run out of town by the fans, LOL).
I also think the whole "Sell Our Team" theme is sending the right message. It may or may not get off the ground, but I guarantee you, DS is hearing every post of every thread (because he's compulsive like that). The guy has like 5 TVs over his desk tuned into all the sports networks. It definitely drives home the fact that he may own the franchise but it's "our" team. I'm totally sold that he is embarassed and gnashing his teeth about the whole situation and he has heads spinning 24/7 at Redskin Park trying to stop the hemorrhaging. So keep the pressure on.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by SkinFanatic

And he'll never move the team. He's a lofelong DC guy and the league makes it too difficult anyway (I wonder how the other owners would feel about a request to move due to being run out of town by the fans, LOL).

Exactly. I think the odds that Snyder moves the team are about as good as the odds of him selling it.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

again obviously he isn't goin to sell the team anytime soon, but maybe if this gets big enough and happens somthing might finally click in his head and say wow i guess the fans really do hate me and change his ways. and it isn't just throwing money away and you will never get it back if you took the time to visit the website instead of iggnorantly bashing it you would realize that if we do not reach our goal everyone gets there money back. and he does only own 51 % and some of the minortiy owners could buy him out if it comes to a point of public emmbarassment, as profitable as the redskins are i'm pretty sure fed ex is worth just a little bit more

I thought that he bought some of the minority stakes?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

I thought that he bought some of the minority stakes?

Snyder and his family own 65%

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Snyder and his family own 65%

yeah after he bought zuckerman's share right?

wasn't this back in 99 or 2000?

[KLHJ2]

1. Again, the name of your campaign is "Sell OUR Team Danny Boy" not "Change YOUR ways Danny Boy".

2. If you do reach your goal and you buy your add and Danny does not sell the team you have failed and essentially have wasted everyones money.

3. He owns 51%, he cannot be bought out unles he sells it. There is only a total of 49% that can be acquired through his partners.

4. The NFL owners have to approve the sale of an NFL franchise to a new majority owner. Danny is so bad that they will never let him sell. It's one less team to worry about making the post season. (That was a funny)

5. The last time that I ignorantly bashed anyone was when I was ignorant so it doesn't count.

[hooskins]

1)He said he is gonna refund if he doesnt reach his goal.

2)Although it isnt perfect, I still think it gets media attention, hopefully national at one point. This will put more pressure on dan than he has now.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by hooskins

1)He said he is gonna refund if he doesnt reach his goal.

2)Although it isnt perfect, I still think it gets media attention, hopefully national at one point. This will put more pressure on dan than he has now.

I think they're arguing what will happen if they get the ads on the buses and then Dan continues to run the team into the ground/doesn't end up changing or doing anything differently.

My counter argument to that would be... Don't donate then. Everyone knows the risks of putting their money towards the cause. If you don't believe in it, keep your money.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I think they're arguing what will happen if they get the ads on the buses and then Dan continues to run the team into the ground/doesn't end up changing or doing anything differently.

My counter argument to that would be... Don't donate then. Everyone knows the risks of putting their money towards the cause. If you don't believe in it, keep your money.

not really my argument DR. I argue that the continued and exaggerated alienation of DS by the fan base only leads in one direction, and that is the team moving. Yes DS' moves are moronic, imbecilic etc. but he has final say and that isn't changing. So the most likely result of any anti-DS groundswell is the loss of the very thing all of us want to succeed.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

not really my argument DR. I argue that the continued and exaggerated alienation of DS by the fan base only leads in one direction, and that is the team moving. Yes DS' moves are moronic, imbecilic etc. but he has final say and that isn't changing. So the most likely result of any anti-DS groundswell is the loss of the very thing all of us want to succeed.

I think you are correct. When fans demand that the team be sold, likely DS will just be driven more deeply into a bunker mentality. And, from this position, he is far more likely to move the team than to sell it.

I'm sorry but I think the "Sell our team" campaign is, in the long term, counterproductive and perhaps disastrous.

"Change the team" is a much better message and is one that I would support.