ESPN.com: Gibbs says 2nd NFL career to be short

SmootSmack · 01-26-2005, 02:22 PM

I think he's just being his usual self-deprecating Joe Gibbs. I think he was speaking in relative terms, football to NASCAR. Maybe 5 years from now he'll be done with football but he can still be a NASCAR owner for another 10-20 years.

But yes, he damn well better win some more games next year

Paintrain · 01-26-2005, 02:30 PM

Ramseyfan I was thinking the same thing in regards to Williams.. I think if the Redskins are less than 9-7 next year then he gives the reins to Williams. If they are 9-7 or better he makes one Super Bowl run in '06 and then leaves.

Shane · 01-26-2005, 02:40 PM

I think that this is a typical comment coming from his modesty. To me, what he was saying was if things went very poorly say over the next couple of years that Dan Snyder would fire him, not that he would quit. But things would have to go extraordinarily poorly for that to happen, and they are only going to get better and better.

This was a very encouraging press conference to me, because he made it clear he is here to restore the organization and get everything on a winning track - and he says he would be willing to coach beyond 5 years if that is what it takes. I had hoped this was true, and it is heartening to see that this is what Coach Gibbs is willing to do.

hurrykaine · 01-26-2005, 03:01 PM

I have tremendous respect what he's done for this organization in the past (basically, all our glory is due to him), but I wouldn't be that unhappy to see him go & have Williams at the helm if his offense stinks up the joint again next year.

We have to build around our championship caliber Defense, and hire a more dynamic offensive staff.

I'm not sold on the Breauxs, Buges and Burns and Musgraves that will be running our offense next year.

Take Breaux's comment at the end of the season "we've got to let her fly more".....what the hell was he thinking during the season then? It's like they wasted an entire season to learn that lesson...of course, having Brunell start earlier in the season didn't help. If they're going to stick with their original philosophy to run run run to set up play action, then they better beef up that line and get a stud blocking TE, else I doubt the philosophy will work.

Take Buges for instance...gotta love his energy and enthusiasm on returning to DC, but I don't know how much he's got left in the tank as far as coaching goes. He keeps calling Samuels and Dockery really special players, when they've been rather ordinary. The Buges coached O-line gave up marginally fewer sacks than Kim Helton's great line last year. Buges used to be the best O-line coach, but now he's simply not in the same league with the Alex Gibbs and Grimms of the league.

Musgrave oversaw the 29th ranked offense (points-wise) in the league which led him to be fired from the Jags - why'd we get this guy? To develop Brunell more?

FRPLG · 01-26-2005, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hurrykaine

Take Breaux's comment at the end of the season "we've got to let her fly more".....what the hell was he thinking during the season then? It's like they wasted an entire season to learn that lesson...of course, having Brunell start earlier in the season didn't help. If they're going to stick with their original philosophy to run run run to set up play action, then they better beef up that line and get a stud blocking TE, else I doubt the philosophy will work.

Seems like it'd be tough to simply change offensesive strategies in the middle of the year. Despite why would you change strategy when you have just implemented a new one and spent months getting your QBs to udnerstand it. They realized they had to make changes but tried to make what they had work. Now that they have time they can retool the approach to better use the talent they ahave.

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Take Buges for instance...gotta love his energy and enthusiasm on returning to DC, but I don't know how much he's got left in the tank as far as coaching goes. He keeps calling Samuels and Dockery really special players, when they've been rather ordinary. The Buges coached O-line gave up marginally fewer sacks than Kim Helton's great line last year. Buges used to be the best O-line coach, but now he's simply not in the same league with the Alex Gibbs and Grimms of the league.

I don't what games you were watching but their offensive line was far better this year than last. Don't simply look at sacks because that only takes into consideration one aspect. Both Brunell and Ramsey were able to hold the ball much longer this year than in the past and the crushing jail break sacks were basically eliminated. Work to be done for sure but they were definitly better. And also... you want Buges to come and say "well dockery and samuels play like little girls and we are seriously questioning their manhood"? It's called standing behind your guys and trying to keep thier confidence up. Plus anyways Samuels only gave up like one sack this year so using your sack comparison he had a great year.

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Originally Posted by hurrykaine

Musgrave oversaw the 29th ranked offense (points-wise) in the league which led him to be fired from the Jags - why'd we get this guy? To develop Brunell more?

I don't think Musgrave had much to do with Brunell in Jacksonville but I could be wrong. As far as why we got him though I have no clue. I don't read too much into coaching the Jags but considering their talent level I am somewhat concerned. I will withhold judgement on this until he can hsow u something. I'd love to know what happened in J'ville.

hurrykaine · 01-26-2005, 04:14 PM

"you want Buges to come and say "well dockery and samuels play like little girls and we are seriously questioning their manhood"?"

Yes, thats exactly what I want. It's what Parcells would've done..can't remember the player it was directed to, but Parcells once said in a post-game interview .."yes, she had a rough day today".

Call Samuels out when Alex Brown beats him clean on a bull rush! Call Docile Dockery out when he's being manhandled by Cory Simon.

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01-26-2005, 02:30 PM	#2
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 55 Posts: 5,006	Ramseyfan I was thinking the same thing in regards to Williams.. I think if the Redskins are less than 9-7 next year then he gives the reins to Williams. If they are 9-7 or better he makes one Super Bowl run in '06 and then leaves.

01-26-2005, 02:40 PM	#3
Shane Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 277	I think that this is a typical comment coming from his modesty. To me, what he was saying was if things went very poorly say over the next couple of years that Dan Snyder would fire him, not that he would quit. But things would have to go extraordinarily poorly for that to happen, and they are only going to get better and better. This was a very encouraging press conference to me, because he made it clear he is here to restore the organization and get everything on a winning track - and he says he would be willing to coach beyond 5 years if that is what it takes. I had hoped this was true, and it is heartening to see that this is what Coach Gibbs is willing to do.

01-26-2005, 03:01 PM	#4
hurrykaine Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Age: 53 Posts: 762	I have tremendous respect what he's done for this organization in the past (basically, all our glory is due to him), but I wouldn't be that unhappy to see him go & have Williams at the helm if his offense stinks up the joint again next year. We have to build around our championship caliber Defense, and hire a more dynamic offensive staff. I'm not sold on the Breauxs, Buges and Burns and Musgraves that will be running our offense next year. Take Breaux's comment at the end of the season "we've got to let her fly more".....what the hell was he thinking during the season then? It's like they wasted an entire season to learn that lesson...of course, having Brunell start earlier in the season didn't help. If they're going to stick with their original philosophy to run run run to set up play action, then they better beef up that line and get a stud blocking TE, else I doubt the philosophy will work. Take Buges for instance...gotta love his energy and enthusiasm on returning to DC, but I don't know how much he's got left in the tank as far as coaching goes. He keeps calling Samuels and Dockery really special players, when they've been rather ordinary. The Buges coached O-line gave up marginally fewer sacks than Kim Helton's great line last year. Buges used to be the best O-line coach, but now he's simply not in the same league with the Alex Gibbs and Grimms of the league. Musgrave oversaw the 29th ranked offense (points-wise) in the league which led him to be fired from the Jags - why'd we get this guy? To develop Brunell more?

01-26-2005, 04:14 PM	#6
hurrykaine Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Age: 53 Posts: 762	"you want Buges to come and say "well dockery and samuels play like little girls and we are seriously questioning their manhood"?" Yes, thats exactly what I want. It's what Parcells would've done..can't remember the player it was directed to, but Parcells once said in a post-game interview .."yes, she had a rough day today". Call Samuels out when Alex Brown beats him clean on a bull rush! Call Docile Dockery out when he's being manhandled by Cory Simon.

ESPN.com: Gibbs says 2nd NFL career to be short

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