The line is quite offensive right now

[diehardskin2982]

I will not argue that the line isn't bad. Stevie Wonder can see that problem, but I do feel that Cerratto can get off his ass and make something happen.

We could pick up a Jon Runyan slide Mike Williams to gaurd and Levi Jones moves to Left tackle. That would stregthen the oline, the running game would become better. Campbell was fragile mentally before from what happened in the off season and this year, it's time to move on. Jeff could come in learn the basics in the bye week and you could go the PC route, let Campbell start the ATL game then bench him after he stinks it up. They have to do all they can to get this turned around, I don't think they are right doing that right now. Why waste a roster spot on Ganther who will never see the playing field?

[skinsfan69]

What is the deal with Chad Rinehart? How in the hell is he not on the field? Thomas is out for the year and he's STILL not playing. WTF is going on with this guy??? Montgomery is a bum yet our 3rd rounder from last year can't beat out this journeymen? Boy did Vinny and co. miss on this guy.

[warriorzpath]

I think JC's play last night was way more offensive than the offensive line.

[wordsmithgk]

How many times did Campbell have to pick himself up off the ground last night?

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by wordsmithgk

How many times did Campbell have to pick himself up off the ground last night?

Excluding times when he ran into a sack or ran towards pressure or didn't step up into the pocket?

[44Deezel]

Quick stupid question. When teams are bringing the house like the Eagles did last night, aren't you supposed to counter with screen passes, quick hits (slants, etc), move the pocket around, draw plays, etc? Other teams seem able to scheme against poor pass protection/over-aggressive Defenses. What's our deal? First half, I didn't think the pass protection was all that bad, but second half it was criminal.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Quick stupid question. When teams are bringing the house like the Eagles did last night, aren't you supposed to counter with screen passes, quick hits (slants, etc), move the pocket around, draw plays, etc? Other teams seem able to scheme against poor pass protection/over-aggressive Defenses. What's our deal? First half, I didn't think the pass protection was all that bad, but second half it was criminal.

I'm bothered by this too, and I suspect the answer is twofold. First, our coaches, whether it's Zorn or Lewis, are terrible at making adjustments. I've said before Zorn may have the most genius gameplan in the world up to kick-off, once things start to inevitably unravel he doesn't adjust the calls wisely. Last night was the same story...like you said where were the quick slants, screens and RB dump-offs to punish the defense for sending the house? The second problem is we evidently don't run an offense that allows for adjustment at the LOS. Like they joked on ESPN last night Jason doesn't know what an audible is.

[tootergray34]

not backing JC or antying...but how do you have any pocket presence when your OL is getting beat and pressure is coming from all angles? He must be nervous turning his back to the defense knowing he is going to get rocked...

what's funnier is Cerrato said that he handed Jim Zorn a playoff team earlier today on the radio...what a JOKE!

and one more thing...they need to either fire zorn now...or let him be the coach.

[MTK]

It would help if the offense had audibles to begin with. Can't fault JC for that.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It would help if the offense had audibles to begin with. Can't fault JC for that.

An NFL offense without a full slate of audibles...what a great idea!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Lotus

An NFL offense without a full slate of audibles...what a great idea!

Al Saunders understands. I don't however.

I can only imagine being a QB at the line of scrimmage thinking shit, we're gonna get blown up this play, and you can't do a thing about it.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It would help if the offense had audibles to begin with. Can't fault JC for that.

Word. I didn't mean to put it on Jason. It's the scheme.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It would help if the offense had audibles to begin with. Can't fault JC for that.

Agreed big time. You could see the blitz coming and not even a change in protection.. where the hell does that start? Is Rabach still calling the protection?

[The Goat]

This is a really, really good thread IMO...lots of quality discussion in the midst of a ruined franchise so props to everyone. I'm never again assuming lil D will learn a lesson and make solid decisions as the real GM, but if luck has it we somehow start down the right track this is what I think it should look like:

Build our offense through the draft next year. We likely will have the 4 or 5 overall pick as St. Louis, KC, Tampa, Detroit and ourselves suck the bottom of the NFL aquarium in '09. We should get the 2nd best overall LT there as a no-brainer pick. That high 2nd round pick is perfect for a starting center...Rabach must never play again after this season. The best RB available in the 3rd rd makes sense, but if there's another quality o-lineman available I would grab him and wait on the RB.

I'm assuming we bring in a legit WR coach to develop our investments at the position. The next big question mark is QB. I definitely think Jason is gone after this season. I would like to see us bring in the best veteran QB available to compete w/ Colt for the starting spot. I definitely wouldn't invest a high draft pick there...just doesn't make sense.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by The Goat

This is a really, really good thread IMO...lots of quality discussion in the midst of a ruined franchise so props to everyone. I'm never again assuming lil D will learn a lesson and make solid decisions as the real GM, but if luck has it we somehow start down the right track this is what I think it should look like:

Build our offense through the draft next year. We likely will have the 4 or 5 overall pick as St. Louis, KC, Tampa, Detroit and ourselves suck the bottom of the NFL aquarium in '09. We should get the 2nd best overall LT there as a no-brainer pick. That high 2nd round pick is perfect for a starting center...Rabach must never play again after this season. The best RB available in the 3rd rd makes sense, but if there's another quality o-lineman available I would grab him and wait on the RB.

I'm assuming we bring in a legit WR coach to develop our investments at the position. The next big question mark is QB. I definitely think Jason is gone after this season. I would like to see us bring in the best veteran QB available to compete w/ Colt for the starting spot. I definitely wouldn't invest a high draft pick there...just doesn't make sense.

We don't have the 3rd pick cuz we used it up for Jarmon.. However, it's proving to be right choice so far..

Beside, pretty much I agree with you.. Although I would want retain Campbell and still sign someone else to push for #1 spot.. It's better to have more than two choices..