Denial of free speech @ games?

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well I watched the game last night and saw a full stadium and none of those protesters. I was actually surprised by how many fans went to the game and thought that the Eagle fans would be there in larger numbers.

Exactly! I didn't see one fan wearing any of those shirts on TV. But, if I had tuned in and noticed that half the stadium is empty (like it was last week,) then I would know something is wrong.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well I watched the game last night and saw a full stadium and none of those protesters. I was actually surprised by how many fans went to the game and thought that the Eagle fans would be there in larger numbers.

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Exactly! I didn't see one fan wearing any of those shirts on TV. But, if I had tuned in and noticed that half the stadium is empty (like it was last week,) then I would know something is wrong.

You guys didn't see the protesters because they weren't allowed into the stadium (or had to give up their protesting materials). Did you guys even read the first post/article? Sheesh.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

You guys didn't see the protesters because they weren't allowed into the stadium (or had to give up their protesting materials). Did you guys even read the first post/article? Sheesh.

Someone made the point they did this to get national attention on MNF and I just pointed out that none of it showed up on TV. SHeesh

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Someone made the point they did this to get national attention on MNF and I just pointed out that none of it showed up on TV. SHeesh

Ok. Are you saying that it didn't/won't show up on TV because the station will not cover it, and therefore such behavior will never send a message to the national audience? If so, I would have to disagree completely. Media loves controversy.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

You guys didn't see the protesters because they weren't allowed into the stadium (or had to give up their protesting materials). Did you guys even read the first post/article? Sheesh.

Actually I found/read the article even before it was posted here, so I'll see your sheesh and raise ya a whatever. Unless the TV cameras zero in on one or two particular fans, then those of us watching the game at home are going to notice empty seats more than what fans are wearing in the stands. That was really our point. If I tune in and see a stadium that is half way, or more, empty, then I am going to notice that first before I see what fans are wearing.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Actually I found/read the article even before it was posted here, so I'll see your sheesh and raise ya a whatever. Unless the TV cameras zero in on one or two particular fans, then those of us watching the game at home are going to notice empty seats more than what fans are wearing in the stands. That was really our point. If I tune in and see a stadium that is half way, or more, empty, then I am going to notice that first before I see what fans are wearing.

I agree you'd notice a half-empty stadium before noticing what people are wearing -- regardless of how many people are wearing it.

However, I don't think it's ineffective. Yeah, if only one or two particular fans are protesting, but that is not the case. What do you think the cameras would do, if 40,000 people were wearing the anti-snyder stuff? You think they'd ignore it? Well, they didn't have to make that decision because Snyder didn't let them in, or forced them to abandon the stuff that Snyder didn't approve of. Why did he do that, you ask? Because he didn't want it to receive any coverage. I think that says it all.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I agree you'd notice a half-empty stadium before noticing what people are wearing -- regardless of how many people are wearing it.

However, I don't think it's ineffective. Yeah, if only one or two particular fans are protesting, but that is not the case. What do you think the cameras would do, if 40,000 people were wearing the anti-snyder stuff? You think they'd ignore it? Well, they didn't have to make that decision because Snyder didn't let them in, or forced them to abandon the stuff that Snyder didn't approve of. Why did he do that, you ask? Because he didn't want it to receive any coverage. I think that says it all.

Well I think it's kind of the trickle down theory. It starts with written news articles or blogs about it. (which has already happened.) Then, ESPN gets wind of it and eventually it gets on TV. Basically what Dan Snyder is doing is trying to plug the holes in the dam as good as he can. However, eventually, more holes appear than what he has fingers and it can't be stopped. I still say the most affective way of sticking it to Snyder is to reduce, if not completely cut off, padding his pocket with money. No more buying tickets and going to the games, no concessions, no Redskins swag, no paid parking, etc... All the shirts really are doing is reinforcing what people already assume or know about Daniel Snyder. Seems to me the only guy who has said anything nice about him has been Joe Gibbs, but that is because Gibbs isn't the type of guy who is going to go publicly bashing people, and plus Snyder worships Gibbs.

As a fan who never goes to the games (because I don't live in the area nor do I have the money to go) the first thing I noticed last week and last night was which seats and how many were empty. More noticeable last week of course, but that speaks volumes to me.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Well I think it's kind of the trickle down theory. It starts with written news articles or blogs about it. (which has already happened.) Then, ESPN gets wind of it and eventually it gets on TV. Basically what Dan Snyder is doing is trying to plug the holes in the dam as good as he can. However, eventually, more holes appear than what he has fingers and it can't be stopped. I still say the most affective way of sticking it to Snyder is to reduce, if not completely cut off, padding his pocket with money. No more buying tickets and going to the games, no concessions, no Redskins swag, no paid parking, etc... All the shirts really are doing is reinforcing what people already assume or know about Daniel Snyder. Seems to me the only guy who has said anything nice about him has been Joe Gibbs, but that is because Gibbs isn't the type of guy who is going to go publicly bashing people, and plus Snyder worships Gibbs.

As a fan who never goes to the games (because I don't live in the area nor do I have the money to go) the first thing I noticed last week and last night was which seats and how many were empty. More noticeable last week of course, but that speaks volumes to me.

I hear ya. I think it's just fun to ruffle Danny's panties whenever, and however, possible. I know a lot of people aren't on board with the bus ads, but it makes me smile knowing how much that would irritate Snyder. Yeah, I'm petty, but I'm okay with it.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I hear ya. I think it's just fun to ruffle Danny's panties whenever, and however, possible. I know a lot of people aren't on board with the bus ads, but it makes me smile knowing how much that would irritate Snyder. Yeah, I'm petty, but I'm okay with it.

I agree, only because Snyderato needs to understand it is their incompetence that got us here. The media attention that it will get on network/national pregame shows, NFL Network, Espn etc. will force the attention and raises the stress level of Snyderatto more than anything else.
The people that got upset about this idea need to lighten up.

I live in Texas and have friends here in Houston that come from all over the country, and they all are laughing at the Redskins and in particular Danny. They all to the person say the same thing, how Danny and Vinny have driven this team into the ground in such a short amount of time since Gibbs left. It is amazing the consensus of the fingers pointed at Snyderatto. It is years too late. I have hated Ceratto for the last 7 years.