Will Dan Snyder finally fire Vinny Cerrato

[Daseal]

If I weren't so lazy, I'd go to some of the pre-preseason threads and look at who here is complaining about Vinny that was talking about all the talent we have on the team a few months ago. I don't care for Vinny, more because he's too much of a yes man. His personnel decisions haven't been atrocious, in my opinion. He made some mistakes (real lack of OL depth) but every team has weak points. We also have a QB and a RB that make them look even worse than they are at times. When it comes down to it, this team needs a strong GM that is a buffer between coach and owner.

I don't think Vinny has been terrible at acquiring talent. He hasn't been stellar either, but we don't have a team devoid of talent. He didn't strike out on many high draft picks. He's the golden boy in the 7th round.

I think Snyder, and to a lesser extent, Vinny, are getting beat up a bit more than they should. For me, this team has issues, but not the type of issues we've seen so far. With our cup cake schedule losing more than 2 is pathetic. Even that 2nd one should never happen with the teams we played. Zorn is not a head coach in this league, at least not yet. Most of my anger is pointed in his direction. He seems to be getting a pass, and I don't understand why.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Daseal

If I weren't so lazy, I'd go to some of the pre-preseason threads and look at who here is complaining about Vinny that was talking about all the talent we have on the team a few months ago. I don't care for Vinny, more because he's too much of a yes man. His personnel decisions haven't been atrocious, in my opinion. He made some mistakes (real lack of OL depth) but every team has weak points. We also have a QB and a RB that make them look even worse than they are at times. When it comes down to it, this team needs a strong GM that is a buffer between coach and owner.

I don't think Vinny has been terrible at acquiring talent. He hasn't been stellar either, but we don't have a team devoid of talent. He didn't strike out on many high draft picks. He's the golden boy in the 7th round.

I think Snyder, and to a lesser extent, Vinny, are getting beat up a bit more than they should. For me, this team has issues, but not the type of issues we've seen so far. With our cup cake schedule losing more than 2 is pathetic. Even that 2nd one should never happen with the teams we played. Zorn is not a head coach in this league, at least not yet. Most of my anger is pointed in his direction. He seems to be getting a pass, and I don't understand why.

Well said Daseal. Yes, Vinny has made mistakes but his biggest failure is that almost nobody likes him. His biggest success is that one person, one very important person, does.

With the expected improved playing time for Thomas and Davis during the second half (and hopefully Kelly) it will be interesting to see what the reaction will be if they play well.

For me, I think Vinny has to go because he has made some major flaws. For one thing, hiring Zorn is all on him. And his lack of people skills is not productive to the overall success of the team. All that said though, I think he will have left the team with some solid pieces.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by Daseal

If I weren't so lazy, I'd go to some of the pre-preseason threads and look at who here is complaining about Vinny that was talking about all the talent we have on the team a few months ago. I don't care for Vinny, more because he's too much of a yes man. His personnel decisions haven't been atrocious, in my opinion. He made some mistakes (real lack of OL depth) but every team has weak points. We also have a QB and a RB that make them look even worse than they are at times. When it comes down to it, this team needs a strong GM that is a buffer between coach and owner.

I don't think Vinny has been terrible at acquiring talent. He hasn't been stellar either, but we don't have a team devoid of talent. He didn't strike out on many high draft picks. He's the golden boy in the 7th round.

I think Snyder, and to a lesser extent, Vinny, are getting beat up a bit more than they should. For me, this team has issues, but not the type of issues we've seen so far. With our cup cake schedule losing more than 2 is pathetic. Even that 2nd one should never happen with the teams we played. Zorn is not a head coach in this league, at least not yet. Most of my anger is pointed in his direction. He seems to be getting a pass, and I don't understand why.

I'll buy that, Zorn is not head coaching material in this league at this point. Probably never will be.

I certainly think there is enough blame to go around, primarily Dan/Vinny before Coach Gibbs got out the door they were destroying 4 years of putting a team and coaching staff together. Zorn's part of the problem, but not on the top of my list. He didn't hire himself. The guy was in over his head right outta the gates. And was aloud to bring in Sherm Smith another guy, with no play calling or offensive coordinator experience. Who thought that was a recipe for success.

You have to look at Vinny and/or Dan for letting this disaster unfold to begin with. Remember we had a staff in place,and Coach Gibbs predecessor was supposedly already on board Gregg Williams and an experienced offensive coordinator in Al Saunders. But who couldn't work with the man that had been hand picked by Dan's idol..?

Furthermore, we had a #4 ranked defense last season, not to bad even with a weak pass rush/ minimal sacks,turnovers/picks. Don't get me wrong if they would have addressed the O-Line, Big Al= good move, DHall=I wasn't and still am not crazy about the move, Orakpo=Should be a good player for a long time if played correctly. But the O-Line NEEDS were the most obvious NEED of this team bar none going into this season and were neglected. So what did Vinny and Co. do to address this MAJOR AREA of concern,Dockery. One move that was worth anything. That's on Vinny!