Our 2010 First Round Draft Pick Should Be...

T.O.Killa · 11-01-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by duetsch215

the past couple years, OL has had many picks in the 1-2 rounds and then drop off but some QBs slip through the cracks into the later rounds because some play bad defenses and it is tough to accurately judge their skills. The Skins need of quality OL significantly dwarfs the need at QB right now.

OK, you are starting a team. Some one says they will give you one player. Your choice is Joe Montana or Joe Jacoby(or the LT of your choice), who do you take.

Eknox · 11-01-2009, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

OK, you are starting a team. Some one says they will give you one player. Your choice is Joe Montana or Joe Jacoby(or the LT of your choice), who do you take.

Give me the LT,and I'll wait for Ryan Mallet next year..

Trample the Elderly · 11-01-2009, 08:37 PM

Yeah whatever?! It's effing November and we're talking about the draft already.

I ask myself, "Self, should I give a damn?"

The reply, "Not really. That fool Al Synderato doesn't know how to draft offensive linemen, or he'd done it already!"

Insert any QB and watch him get CRUSHED! Cutler'd = CRUSHED Snachez = CRUSHED Bradford = CRUSHED Clausen = CRUSHED Snead = CRUSHED Tebow, I really hate to think of such a good guy getting . . . .CRUSHED after he gets drafted by the Redskins.

I was so pissed after the draft last year. There's no way I'm doing that again.

So here we are talking about Brandon Spikes, Tim Tebow, or whatever WR / CB they have down in Florida. Here we are talking about college guys that don't play on the O-line.

How about some Trent Williams, Russell Okung, or even Kyle Calloway? How about Mike Johnson, John Perry, or Mike Iupati?

Our offensive line is trash. Derrick Dockery gets cut by the Bills and dumb ass Vinny throws money at him? Raback was washed up last year. Everyone who watched Shaun Roberts beat his head in knew that. The rest of these guys should be washing dishes somewhere. :frusty:

Naw, get me a QB, a ILB, a CB, or a TE/FB. That's what we need to go the distance baby! What a crock! :vomit:

T.O.Killa · 11-01-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Yeah whatever?! It's effing November and we're talking about the draft already.

I ask myself, "Self, should I give a damn?"

The reply, "Not really. That fool Al Synderato doesn't know how to draft offensive linemen, or he'd done it already!"

Insert any QB and watch him get CRUSHED! Cutler'd = CRUSHED Snachez = CRUSHED Bradford = CRUSHED Clausen = CRUSHED Snead = CRUSHED Tebow, I really hate to think of such a good guy getting . . . .CRUSHED after he gets drafted by the Redskins.

I was so pissed after the draft last year. There's no way I'm doing that again.

Jason Campbell+Good Oline= bad
Jason Campbell+Bad Oline=Horrible

Look at my earlier post

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Jason C sacked 20 times

Bret Farve sacked 19 times
Mat Cassel Sacked 24 times
Aaron Roger sacked 29 times
Ben Rothlisberger 20 times

What does this tell you, that if an oline sucks you still should be able to move the ball. You should still be able to put more than seventeen points max. We need a Quarterback. If we had a quarterback, we would see Devin Thomas, Fred Davis, Malcom Kelly, and Marko Mitchell look like players that belong in the NFL. We should cut Jason Campbell now and fill his spot with Brian Brohm. I have never seen a team(They Finally gave up after Hiring Al Saunders, then Jim Zorn, draft a myriad of receivers, to go along with Moss, Portis, and Randel El) or a group of fans that make more excuses for a quarterback that sucks. Plain and simple.
If we had Brett Farve or Jay Cutler or any of the better Qbs we would have a winning record.

So here we are talking about Brandon Spikes, Tim Tebow, or whatever WR / CB they have down in Florida. Here we are talking about college guys that don't play on the O-line.

How about some Trent Williams, Russell Okung, or even Kyle Calloway? How about Mike Johnson, John Perry, or Mike Iupati?

Our offensive line is trash. Derrick Dockery gets cut by the Bills and dumb ass Vinny throws money at him? Raback was washed up last year. Everyone who watched Shaun Roberts beat his head in knew that. The rest of these guys should be washing dishes somewhere. :frusty:

Naw, get me a QB, a ILB, a CB, or a TE/FB. That's what we need to go the distance baby! What a crock! :vomit:

Please somebody help us.

GMScud · 11-01-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

OK, you are starting a team. Some one says they will give you one player. Your choice is Joe Montana or Joe Jacoby(or the LT of your choice), who do you take.

Well, obviously you'd take Montana, but this question does nothing for your argument. If someone asked if you'd take a hall of fame QB with 3 or 4 rings over a franchise LT, obviously you take the QB.

But as far as the draft, none of these kids are anything but potential. The potential for a stud 1st round LT prospect starting and succeeding quickly is quite a bit higher than the crap shoot that is drafting a top QB prospect. With Samuels now done, it's arguable that we have the worst tackle situation in football. We can't neglect that any further. Even if Campbell is the QB next year (unlikely), I doubt he gets worse with more protection.

T.O.Killa · 11-01-2009, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

Well, obviously you'd take Montana, but this question does nothing for your argument. If someone asked if you'd take a hall of fame QB with 3 or 4 rings over a franchise LT, obviously you take the QB.

But as far as the draft, none of these kids are anything but potential. The potential for a stud 1st round LT prospect of starting and succeeding quickly is quite a bit higher than the crap shoot that is drafting a top QB prospect. With Samuels now done, it's arguable that we have the worst tackle situation in football. We can't neglect that any further. Even if Campbell is the QB next year (unlikely), I doubt he gets worse with more protection.

I just want a QB in DC. Sick of not having one. If they pick a tackle I can live with it as long as Campbell is not the QB. We need a change.

T.O.Killa · 11-01-2009, 08:41 PM

Redskins LT 1st round
Eagles LT UDF
Giants LT 5th round
Cowboys LT 2nd round

Bears LT 1st round
Detroit LT 1st round
Packers LT 4th round(rookie)
Vikings LT 1st round

Falcons LT 1st round
Panthers LT 1st round
Saints LT 4th round
Buccuneers LT UDF

Cardinals LT 3rd round
49er's LT 1st round
Seahawks LT 3rd round
Rams LT 1st round

NFC Eight 1st rounders, one second rounder, two third rounders, two fourth ronders, one fith rounder, and two undrafted free agents. My god thats 50/50, kind of suprised me.

Trample the Elderly · 11-01-2009, 08:45 PM

Pick up the phone!

CRedskinsRule · 11-01-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Redskins LT 1st round
Eagles LT UDF
Giants LT 5th round
Cowboys LT 2nd round

Bears LT 1st round
Detroit LT 1st round
Packers LT 4th round(rookie)
Vikings LT 1st round

Falcons LT 1st round
Panthers LT 1st round
Saints LT 4th round
Buccuneers LT UDF

Cardinals LT 3rd round
49er's LT 1st round
Seahawks LT 3rd round
Rams LT 1st round

NFC Eight 1st rounders, one second rounder, two third rounders, two fourth ronders, one fith rounder, and two undrafted free agents. My god thats 50/50, kind of suprised me.

are you saying that all 16 are equal in capability and line play?

T.O.Killa · 11-01-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

are you saying that all 16 are equal in capability and line play?

No I was just posting it so we could see how LT are gotten across the league. I did not realize how many came from later rounds. I was making no statement other than post the research that I did for my own knowledge.

CultBrennan59 · 11-02-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Redskins LT 1st round
Eagles LT UDF
Giants LT 5th round
Cowboys LT 2nd round

Bears LT 1st round
Detroit LT 1st round
Packers LT 4th round(rookie)
Vikings LT 1st round

Falcons LT 1st round
Panthers LT 1st round
Saints LT 4th round
Buccuneers LT UDF

Cardinals LT 3rd round
49er's LT 1st round
Seahawks LT 3rd round
Rams LT 1st round

NFC Eight 1st rounders, one second rounder, two third rounders, two fourth ronders, one fith rounder, and two undrafted free agents. My god thats 50/50, kind of suprised me.

Very intersting, this still shows me that we better take a LT in the first round, because we don't have the football smarts to get a decent LT in say the 4th round or something, we would waste that pick on a player such as Cody Glenn, or Justin Tryon

CRedskinsRule · 11-01-2009, 09:25 PM

Ok,
Out of curiousity did you do the same with qb's?

T.O.Killa · 11-01-2009, 09:28 PM

No, but there is a higher percentage of first round QBs.

ChickenMonkey · 11-01-2009, 09:33 PM

Its straight foward, OT & QB need to be drafted early in 2010....best possible solution because there are several QB's and very few OT studs....Draft the best OT avaliable with the 1st pick.....Trade the 1st round 2011 pick to draft QB in the 1st round as well....In the second round there are 2 top tier OG's grab one quickly......
OLB,RB,KR/WR...rounds 4-5-7

GMScud · 11-01-2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChickenMonkey

Its straight foward, OT & QB need to be drafted early in 2010....best possible solution because there are several QB's and very few OT studs....Draft the best OT avaliable with the 1st pick.....Trade the 1st round 2011 pick to draft QB in the 1st round as well....In the second round there are 2 top tier OG's grab one quickly......
OLB,RB,KR/WR...rounds 4-5-7

I don't really think that's necessary. You may argue that we should give up our '11 1st rounder because this coming draft class for QBs looks pretty damn good. But that same fact can be used to argue against trading that '11 1st rounder. If we can move our 2010 high first round pick for multiple picks, we can still get at least one starting caliber tackle and one of the better QB prospects. I'd prefer to add draft picks than ship them away at this point.

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11-01-2009, 08:37 PM	#3
Trample the Elderly Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Three Chopt Virginia Age: 48 Posts: 2,906	Re: Our 2010 First Round Draft Pick Should Be... Yeah whatever?! It's effing November and we're talking about the draft already. I ask myself, "Self, should I give a damn?" The reply, "Not really. That fool Al Synderato doesn't know how to draft offensive linemen, or he'd done it already!" Insert any QB and watch him get CRUSHED! Cutler'd = CRUSHED Snachez = CRUSHED Bradford = CRUSHED Clausen = CRUSHED Snead = CRUSHED Tebow, I really hate to think of such a good guy getting . . . .CRUSHED after he gets drafted by the Redskins. I was so pissed after the draft last year. There's no way I'm doing that again. So here we are talking about Brandon Spikes, Tim Tebow, or whatever WR / CB they have down in Florida. Here we are talking about college guys that don't play on the O-line. How about some Trent Williams, Russell Okung, or even Kyle Calloway? How about Mike Johnson, John Perry, or Mike Iupati? Our offensive line is trash. Derrick Dockery gets cut by the Bills and dumb ass Vinny throws money at him? Raback was washed up last year. Everyone who watched Shaun Roberts beat his head in knew that. The rest of these guys should be washing dishes somewhere. :frusty: Naw, get me a QB, a ILB, a CB, or a TE/FB. That's what we need to go the distance baby! What a crock! :vomit: __________________ A funny thing happened on the way to the temple. The moneychangers bought the priesthood.

11-01-2009, 08:41 PM	#7
T.O.Killa The Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, MD Posts: 2,061	Re: Our 2010 First Round Draft Pick Should Be... Redskins LT 1st round Eagles LT UDF Giants LT 5th round Cowboys LT 2nd round Bears LT 1st round Detroit LT 1st round Packers LT 4th round(rookie) Vikings LT 1st round Falcons LT 1st round Panthers LT 1st round Saints LT 4th round Buccuneers LT UDF Cardinals LT 3rd round 49er's LT 1st round Seahawks LT 3rd round Rams LT 1st round NFC Eight 1st rounders, one second rounder, two third rounders, two fourth ronders, one fith rounder, and two undrafted free agents. My god thats 50/50, kind of suprised me.

11-01-2009, 08:45 PM	#8
Trample the Elderly Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Three Chopt Virginia Age: 48 Posts: 2,906	Re: Our 2010 First Round Draft Pick Should Be... Pick up the phone! __________________ A funny thing happened on the way to the temple. The moneychangers bought the priesthood.

11-01-2009, 09:25 PM	#12
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 58 Posts: 21,744	Re: Our 2010 First Round Draft Pick Should Be... Ok, Out of curiousity did you do the same with qb's?

11-01-2009, 09:28 PM	#13
T.O.Killa The Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, MD Posts: 2,061	Re: Our 2010 First Round Draft Pick Should Be... No, but there is a higher percentage of first round QBs.

11-01-2009, 09:33 PM	#14
ChickenMonkey Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ontario,Ca Age: 52 Posts: 274	Re: Our 2010 First Round Draft Pick Should Be... Its straight foward, OT & QB need to be drafted early in 2010....best possible solution because there are several QB's and very few OT studs....Draft the best OT avaliable with the 1st pick.....Trade the 1st round 2011 pick to draft QB in the 1st round as well....In the second round there are 2 top tier OG's grab one quickly...... OLB,RB,KR/WR...rounds 4-5-7

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