Our 2010 First Round Draft Pick Should Be...

[CRedskinsRule]

For me, I can see taking a 1st qb, especially if, as it looks now, we have a new GM/HC/OC group. Let them pick their poison. Having said that, the new group better also address the OL. We have done both in the past 10 years, Take 2 OT's in the early rounds(Jansen and Samuels) and 2 QBs in the 1st round(Ramsey and Campbell). Neither strategy in and of itself predicts success. The new group needs to effectively address the Skins as a full fledge team. I personally hope for the OT route, but the whole team needs to be evaluated, and re-worked for the Skins going forward.

[T.O.Killa]

Redskins QB 1st round
Cowboys QB UDF
Eagles QB 1st round
Giants QB 1st round

Bears QB 1st round
Lions QB 1st round
Packers QB 1st round
Vikings QB 2nd round(Farve)

Atlanta QB 1st round
Tampa Bay QB 1st round
Panthers QB UDF
Saints QB 1st

Cardinals QB UDF
49ers QB 1st(This Week)
Seahawks QB 6th round
Rams QB 6th round

10 first rounders, one second rounder, two sixth rounders, three UDF.

After doing this exercise, I think it is a good idea to take your QB in the first round.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Redskins QB 1st round
Cowboys QB UDF
Eagles QB 1st round
Giants QB 1st round

Bears QB 1st round
Lions QB 1st round
Packers QB 1st round
Vikings QB 2nd round(Farve)

Atlanta QB 1st round
Tampa Bay QB 1st round
Panthers QB UDF
Saints QB 1st

Cardinals QB UDF
49ers QB 1st(This Week)
Seahawks QB 6th round
Rams QB 6th round

10 first rounders, one second rounder, two sixth rounders, three UDF.

After doing this exercise, I think it is a good idea to take your QB in the first round.

Nice lookup on both of those sets of stats TO

[Reality Check]

this is my first post because i just had to chime in. u guys are all idiots.

the redskins need a new qb, three or four new ol-men, a number 1 receiver, a new tight end (cooleys has unbelievable stats for his marginal talent because jason campbell constantly checks down and doesnt throw the ball to wrs) TWO new running backs, ladell betts is garbage and clinton portis can make one cut and then falls down LOL! u need two new defensive ends because orakpo would be a beast but is running around covering people, i mean jarmon wouldnt be starting on any other nfc east team and everyone loves him just because hes new and young. a new mlb to replace 36 year old london fletcher. a shutdown corner. dangelo hall gets picks and returns them because hes fast but they are usually on tips or some bullshit not because he jumps routes (see asante samuels), and the asshole cant tackle for shit. horton is too stocky and slow to play safety in this league so a new ss... actually make that a new FS and let landry move over to ss.

i think that makes 14 players.

so after that venting... what the skins need to do is draft a LT or QB in the first round this year, and then go best player available every other round.... and then get a LT or +QB next year in the first round and go best available in all the other rounds once again.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Reality Check

this is my first post because i just had to chime in. u guys are all idiots.

the redskins need a new qb, three or four new ol-men, a number 1 receiver, a new tight end (cooleys has unbelievable stats for his marginal talent because jason campbell constantly checks down and doesnt throw the ball to wrs) TWO new running backs, ladell betts is garbage and clinton portis can make one cut and then falls down LOL! u need two new defensive ends because orakpo would be a beast but is running around covering people, i mean jarmon wouldnt be starting on any other nfc east team and everyone loves him just because hes new and young. a new mlb to replace 36 year old london fletcher. a shutdown corner. dangelo hall gets picks and returns them because hes fast but they are usually on tips or some bullshit not because he jumps routes (see asante samuels), and the asshole cant tackle for shit. horton is too stocky and slow to play safety in this league so a new ss... actually make that a new FS and let landry move over to ss.

i think that makes 14 players.

so after that venting... what the skins need to do is draft a LT or QB in the first round this year, and then go best player available every other round.... and then get a LT or +QB next year in the first round and go best available in all the other rounds once again.

You're not going to last long here if your first post starts with calling us all idiots

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by Reality Check

this is my first post because i just had to chime in. u guys are all idiots.

the redskins need a new qb, three or four new ol-men, a number 1 receiver, a new tight end (cooleys has unbelievable stats for his marginal talent because jason campbell constantly checks down and doesnt throw the ball to wrs) TWO new running backs, ladell betts is garbage and clinton portis can make one cut and then falls down LOL! u need two new defensive ends because orakpo would be a beast but is running around covering people, i mean jarmon wouldnt be starting on any other nfc east team and everyone loves him just because hes new and young. a new mlb to replace 36 year old london fletcher. a shutdown corner. dangelo hall gets picks and returns them because hes fast but they are usually on tips or some bullshit not because he jumps routes (see asante samuels), and the asshole cant tackle for shit. horton is too stocky and slow to play safety in this league so a new ss... actually make that a new FS and let landry move over to ss.

i think that makes 14 players.

so after that venting... what the skins need to do is draft a LT or QB in the first round this year, and then go best player available every other round.... and then get a LT or +QB next year in the first round and go best available in all the other rounds once again.

I see your going to last a long time around here.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Reality Check

this is my first post because i just had to chime in. u guys are all idiots.

the redskins need a new qb, three or four new ol-men, a number 1 receiver, a new tight end (cooleys has unbelievable stats for his marginal talent because jason campbell constantly checks down and doesnt throw the ball to wrs) TWO new running backs, ladell betts is garbage and clinton portis can make one cut and then falls down LOL! u need two new defensive ends because orakpo would be a beast but is running around covering people, i mean jarmon wouldnt be starting on any other nfc east team and everyone loves him just because hes new and young. a new mlb to replace 36 year old london fletcher. a shutdown corner. dangelo hall gets picks and returns them because hes fast but they are usually on tips or some bullshit not because he jumps routes (see asante samuels), and the asshole cant tackle for shit. horton is too stocky and slow to play safety in this league so a new ss... actually make that a new FS and let landry move over to ss.

i think that makes 14 players.

so after that venting... what the skins need to do is draft a LT or QB in the first round this year, and then go best player available every other round.... and then get a LT or +QB next year in the first round and go best available in all the other rounds once again.

Here's a reality check... starting off on a forum by calling everyone an idiot probably isn't smart. That is if you care about sticking around.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Reality Check

this is my first post because i just had to chime in. u guys are all idiots.

the redskins need a new qb, three or four new ol-men, a number 1 receiver, a new tight end (cooleys has unbelievable stats for his marginal talent because jason campbell constantly checks down and doesnt throw the ball to wrs) TWO new running backs, ladell betts is garbage and clinton portis can make one cut and then falls down LOL! u need two new defensive ends because orakpo would be a beast but is running around covering people, i mean jarmon wouldnt be starting on any other nfc east team and everyone loves him just because hes new and young. a new mlb to replace 36 year old london fletcher. a shutdown corner. dangelo hall gets picks and returns them because hes fast but they are usually on tips or some bullshit not because he jumps routes (see asante samuels), and the asshole cant tackle for shit. horton is too stocky and slow to play safety in this league so a new ss... actually make that a new FS and let landry move over to ss.

i think that makes 14 players.

so after that venting... what the skins need to do is draft a LT or QB in the first round this year, and then go best player available every other round.... and then get a LT or +QB next year in the first round and go best available in all the other rounds once again.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Reality Check

this is my first post because i just had to chime in. u guys are all idiots.
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I literally laughed aloud here. I'm willing to believe that what you posted, which I'm not going to bother to read, agreed with what others have said.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Reality Check

this is my first post because i just had to chime in. u guys are all idiots.

the redskins need a new qb, three or four new ol-men, a number 1 receiver, a new tight end (cooleys has unbelievable stats for his marginal talent because jason campbell constantly checks down and doesnt throw the ball to wrs) TWO new running backs, ladell betts is garbage and clinton portis can make one cut and then falls down LOL! u need two new defensive ends because orakpo would be a beast but is running around covering people, i mean jarmon wouldnt be starting on any other nfc east team and everyone loves him just because hes new and young. a new mlb to replace 36 year old london fletcher. a shutdown corner. dangelo hall gets picks and returns them because hes fast but they are usually on tips or some bullshit not because he jumps routes (see asante samuels), and the asshole cant tackle for shit. horton is too stocky and slow to play safety in this league so a new ss... actually make that a new FS and let landry move over to ss.

i think that makes 14 players.

so after that venting... what the skins need to do is draft a LT or QB in the first round this year, and then go best player available every other round.... and then get a LT or +QB next year in the first round and go best available in all the other rounds once again.

nevermind.. I read it.. go back to your madden with the salary cap turned off

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Redskins QB 1st round
Cowboys QB UDF
Eagles QB 1st round
Giants QB 1st round

Bears QB 1st round
Lions QB 1st round
Packers QB 1st round
Vikings QB 2nd round(Farve)

Atlanta QB 1st round
Tampa Bay QB 1st round
Panthers QB UDF
Saints QB 1st

Cardinals QB UDF
49ers QB 1st(This Week)
Seahawks QB 6th round
Rams QB 6th round

10 first rounders, one second rounder, two sixth rounders, three UDF.

After doing this exercise, I think it is a good idea to take your QB in the first round.

drew brees was a 2nd rd pick

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Redskins QB 1st round
Cowboys QB UDF
Eagles QB 1st round
Giants QB 1st round

Bears QB 1st round
Lions QB 1st round
Packers QB 1st round
Vikings QB 2nd round(Farve)

Atlanta QB 1st round
Tampa Bay QB 1st round
Panthers QB UDF
Saints QB 1st

Cardinals QB UDF
49ers QB 1st(This Week)
Seahawks QB 6th round
Rams QB 6th round

10 first rounders, one second rounder, two sixth rounders, three UDF.

After doing this exercise, I think it is a good idea to take your QB in the first round.

Now rank them according to quality of play and see what you get. Just because a guy is taken in the first round it does not mean that he is worth it.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by Angry

Now rank them according to quality of play and see what you get. Just because a guy is taken in the first round it does not mean that he is worth it.

What the list tells me is that you either get a QB in the first round or some how a QB comes out of no where to be good. No way to judje the bottom steels. They just come from thin air.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

What the list tells me is that you either get a QB in the first round or some how a QB comes out of no where to be good. No way to judje the bottom steels. They just come from thin air.

No, it tells you that way too often QB's are over drafted. People fall in love with them and draft them too early. Guys like Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, and Brian Brohm, get over drafted, meanwhile a guy like Chad Henne who is not much less talented and gets selected in the second. Everybody thinks that they are going to end up with the next Peyton Manning in the first round, when the reality is that they are more than likely going to end up with the next Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler, Alex Smith, Aaron Rogers, or Jason Campbell. I think that it is safe to say that only one of those names (maybe 2) were actually worth a first round selection. Neither was the first QB taken in the draft either. Joe Gibbs once said that if you can protect the QB, then there are about 26 guys who can play in this league, if you cannot protect them there are only about 5. I paraphrased because I didn’t want to screw his words up. Needless to say if you look at previous draft history you can find some 2nd-6th rounders that you can develop into solid starters that might be as effective as or better than 1st round draft picks at the QB position.

National Football League: NFL Draft History Full Draft - by Position

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by Angry

No, it tells you that way too often QB's are over drafted. People fall in love with them and draft them too early. Guys like Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, and Brian Brohm, get over drafted, meanwhile a guy like Chad Henne who is not much less talented and gets selected in the second. Everybody thinks that they are going to end up with the next Peyton Manning in the first round, when the reality is that they are more than likely going to end up with the next Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler, Alex Smith, Aaron Rogers, or Jason Campbell. I think that it is safe to say that only one of those names (maybe 2) were actually worth a first round selection. Neither was the first QB taken in the draft either. Joe Gibbs once said that if you can protect the QB, then there are about 26 guys who can play in this league, if you cannot protect them there are only about 5. I paraphrased because I didn’t want to screw his words up. Needless to say if you look at previous draft history you can find some 2nd-6th rounders that you can develop into solid starters that might be as effective as or better than 1st round draft picks at the QB position.

National Football League: NFL Draft History Full Draft - by Position

I cant believe you put Cutler and Rogers in that list. They are worlds ahead of them. Yes you are right thats why you have to keep taking chances till you get one.