Campbell's numbers dont lie

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

But, I think we've seen that Campbell succeeding at ball security and mid-range completions and failing at them are not the difference between the Redskins scoring points and not.

I disagree. Campbell's poor reads, bad throws, and missing open receivers has definitely left points on the field and killed drives. I'm not advocating that he's the sole problem, because we certainly have other issues. But he certainly isn't part of the solution either....and we know what you are if you're not part of the solution

should Campbell be more conservative with his mechanics giving the situation, even if it would make him a better player? Protecting the ball, and not throwing INTs gives this team it's best chance to win, but it does nothing for Jason Campbell's long term future of this team. Winning 6 games because of improvements in ball security still means a change at QB next year. And that's where the problem lies: there's no incentive to do the small things (which are 100% in his control) better because Campbell is getting blamed for the big picture things which ne has no control over. And that's because we're a horrendous organization.

When I'm talking about ball security I'm strictly talking about how JC handles the ball from his drop to release, not on his decisions on where or when to make a throw. He has the very bad habit of holding the ball much too low, patting the ball before a throw, and his long delivery which brings the ball down to almost waist level before his delivery. On the MNF broadcast Chucky had a quick segment showing the little kids doing some basic fundy drills, the thing that struck me was that each kid actually had the ball held properly at mid-chest/shoulder height with two hands, better than what we've seen from JC.

JC has all the incentive in the world to do the little things and big things right. No matter what the Redskins' record is, this season is an NFL-wide job interview for JC. One he's not performing too well in right now.

I do not, and have not disagreed with your analysis, and I think you're doing a top notch job. At this point though, I'm finding myself (naturally) less concerned with the what (bad QB play), and more with the why.

You're absolutely right, the Why is the key. I don't think the Why for Campbell's poor play is an external issue to Campbell (OL, playcalling). He's not improving on the thiings he can control (proper footwook, proper ball security, proper pre-reads and progressions). I wish I had a clear cut answer, but from what we've seen over the last five weeks the answer appears to be JC is just not going to make the improvements necessary to be a top flight NFL QB.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

I disagree. Campbell's poor reads, bad throws, and missing open receivers has definitely left points on the field and killed drives. I'm not advocating that he's the sole problem, because we certainly have other issues. But he certainly isn't part of the solution either....and we know what you are if you're not part of the solution

When I'm talking about ball security I'm strictly talking about how JC handles the ball from his drop to release, not on his decisions on where or when to make a throw. He has the very bad habit of holding the ball much too low, patting the ball before a throw, and his long delivery which brings the ball down to almost waist level before his delivery. On the MNF broadcast Chucky had a quick segment showing the little kids doing some basic fundy drills, the thing that struck me was that each kid actually had the ball held properly at mid-chest/shoulder height with two hands, better than what we've seen from JC.

JC has all the incentive in the world to do the little things and big things right. No matter what the Redskins' record is, this season is an NFL-wide job interview for JC. One he's not performing too well in right now.

You're absolutely right, the Why is the key. I don't think the Why for Campbell's poor play is an external issue to Campbell (OL, playcalling). He's not improving on the thiings he can control (proper footwook, proper ball security, proper pre-reads and progressions). I wish I had a clear cut answer, but from what we've seen over the last five weeks the answer appears to be JC is just not going to make the improvements necessary to be a top flight NFL QB.

there was a play in the philly game where espn did a replay and showed the whole field. lewis called a fake smoke screen where jc pumped faked the wr screen and if he had waited for the play to fully develop he would've had moss wide opn for a td. jaws pointed it out. but jc checked the ball down and not letting the play develop. this is one of many instances. w/out question he's killed scoring chances. plus their is no excuse for the sloppy mechanics in your 5th year.