Our next coach??

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What about Grimm's lack of playcalling experience? After Zorn, this doesn't concern people?

i've said it before, but i dont get all the love for Grimm (as our HC here). he's never done a thing to show he would be even remotely successful in a HC job. some fans just dont understand that being a great redskin player under joe Gibbs doesnt equate to being the best HC for this team since Joe Gibbs.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

i've said it before, but i dont get all the love for Grimm (as our HC here). he's never done a thing to show he would be even remotely successful in a HC job. some fans just dont understand that being a great redskin player under joe Gibbs doesnt equate to being the best HC for this team since Joe Gibbs.

Thank you!

Now lets talk about getting this Monk guy in here he looks like an awesome HC candidate. J/K

[SmootSmack]

By the way, kind of interesting that Shanahan accepted a chance to speak with the Bills but reportedly Cowher and Holmgren both declined

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

By the way, kind of interesting that Shanahan accepted a chance to speak with the Bills but reportedly Cowher and Holmgren both declined

are you suggesting that they already have secret deals in place somewhere?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

are you suggesting that they already have secret deals in place somewhere?

I'm suggesting something seems off, but I have nothing to base it on

[SmootSmack]

You're making a case for Grimm to be offensive line coach it seems.

[Zorn on the 4th of July]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You're making a case for Grimm to be offensive line coach it seems.

More than anything, I'm convinced Grimm needs to be involved in the rehabilitation of the Redskins program in SOME capacity, and simply being the o-line coach is actually a demotion for Grimm considering his current position in Arizona. The only thing I'd accept (and probably Grimm, too) short of head coach is assistant head coach/offensive coordinator, specifically under Bill Cowher, his mentor in Pittsburgh.

At that point he'd be in prime position to take the reigns from Cowher when Cowher moves on OR Grimm proves himself to be enough of a polarizing figure that his unspoken "head-coach-in-waiting" agreement with the front office is not honored at the critical moment (SEE: Gregg Williams).

I think it's plausible that Cowher calls Grimm if he takes the Redskins job, and I already like the nucleus of that coaching staff. If we MUST take one of the NFL HC-retreads that seem to be leading every team's coach wish-list, then we should consider the staff they'll assemble. Taking the staff into account, I'd go with Cowher.

What gives Grimm the slight edge over Cowher is that he's never walked away from the NFL. He stopped playing in 1991 and in 1992 he was coaching. There would be no longing glances at a golf course or a broadcast booth. No re-adjustment period.

But, if everybody's nervous about Grimm as HC, let's bring in Cowher, pray he calls Grimm in Arizona, and evaluate his potential firsthand.

[atomicnixon]

Originally Posted by Zorn on the 4th of July

More than anything, I'm convinced Grimm needs to be involved in the rehabilitation of the Redskins program in SOME capacity, and simply being the o-line coach is actually a demotion for Grimm considering his current position in Arizona. The only thing I'd accept (and probably Grimm, too) short of head coach is assistant head coach/offensive coordinator, specifically under Bill Cowher, his mentor in Pittsburgh.

At that point he'd be in prime position to take the reigns from Cowher when Cowher moves on OR Grimm proves himself to be enough of a polarizing figure that his unspoken "head-coach-in-waiting" agreement with the front office is not honored at the critical moment (SEE: Gregg Williams).

I think it's plausible that Cowher calls Grimm if he takes the Redskins job, and I already like the nucleus of that coaching staff. If we MUST take one of the NFL HC-retreads that seem to be leading every team's coach wish-list, then we should consider the staff they'll assemble. Taking the staff into account, I'd go with Cowher.

What gives Grimm the slight edge over Cowher is that he's never walked away from the NFL. He stopped playing in 1991 and in 1992 he was coaching. There would be no longing glances at a golf course or a broadcast booth. No re-adjustment period.

But, if everybody's nervous about Grimm as HC, let's bring in Cowher, pray he calls Grimm in Arizona, and evaluate his potential firsthand.

I really like your idea, however wasn't that the implicit plan when Gibbs came back?? The FO totally ignored Gregg Williams (who will probably land a HC job at the end of this year), so should Cowher come here, what makes you think the FO will do anything different? We have seen they are oblivious to any mistakes they make.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by atomicnixon

I really like your idea, however wasn't that the implicit plan when Gibbs came back?? The FO totally ignored Gregg Williams (who will probably land a HC job at the end of this year), so should Cowher come here, what makes you think the FO will do anything different? We have seen they are oblivious to any mistakes they make.

I was married once. I'm not anymore. Sometimes plans don't work out. Sometimes you find out you don't have what you think you had. Williams may have been treated badly or he may have brought it on himself. We really don't know.

[atomicnixon]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I was married once. I'm not anymore. Sometimes plans don't work out. Sometimes you find out you don't have what you think you had. Williams may have been treated badly or he may have brought it on himself. We really don't know.

Good point, we really don't know. Given the past, I suspect Gregg Williams wanted the same authority that Marty had, but being bereft of it while Gibbs was here, I think Snyder wanted it back badly. Again, thats just my opinion, we just don't know.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I was married once. I'm not anymore. Sometimes plans don't work out. Sometimes you find out you don't have what you think you had. Williams may have been treated badly or he may have brought it on himself. We really don't know.

This is a point I do not understand how fans do not.....grasp. WE do not know what goes on behind the scenes. IN the FO. We are quick to accuse, indict and sentence when we have NO idea how things....really go down in the FO...........

[SBXVII]

More importantly the only thing he would bring to the table is building a better offensive O-line. No different then Zorn was supposed to bring a better QB to the table. I'm with the critizism crowd.....has Grimm called plays or designed plays with the Steelers or Cardinals? Is he calling plays now? or is all he doing is working with the O-line.

I don't have a problem bringing him in to replace Buges cause I think he has the knowledge of Buges scheme and most likely a newer version, but I think you will be hard pressed to take him away from the Cards unless his contract is up, fired, or named HC. I would be supprised if he got a HCing job soon. I hope I'm wrong and he proves me wrong. Maybe he will get a shot from the likes of the Browns or Buffalo and he brings in a qualified OC to call plays. Who knows.

[SBXVII]

I got to thinking about Shanahan since people have bursted my bubble with Marty and figured that if Shanahan is brought in he most likely would bring in his son from the Texans. I think they had a prime time game recently which I failed to look at with the mind set that the offense they use may show up here so I looked at the stats on NFL.com. Their not that impressive. Yes better then the Skins but not a whole lot better. I think they were middle of the pack in a lot of their stats except passing which was like top 10. The thing I noticed though is their rushing is below ours. I think they were like 30th in rushing.

Maybe dad Shanahan would help him out with some of these issues. My other concern is how many of the coaching staff he had in Denver would he be able to bring to Washington? We definitly would need the O-line coach unless he has someone else he knows who would be just as good or better. Would any of the coach's that stayed in Denver be available to come to Washington or are they unavailable due to contracts.

[MTK]

So does he have an out clause or not? Schefter said there's a less than zero % chance Gruden is back as a HC next year, and in all likelihood we won't see him until 2012 at the earliest.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So does he have an out clause or not? Schefter said there's a less than zero % chance Gruden is back as a HC next year, and in all likelihood we won't see him until 2012 at the earliest.

I don't know the specifics quite honestly, just have heard that if he wants out it could happen but it would cost him so much it wouldn't be worth it. But again I don't know any details