Our next coach??

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Gibbs thought Williams would be a fine candidate, but never flat out told Snyder "This is the guy you have to hire." I personally think Williams should be afforded a second chance to be a head coach (as I understand it, there were some significant off the field issues in Buffalo but if you give players second chances...), and it probably should have been here. I don't know that he'd be a good head coach, which requires a lot more than being a coordinator.

Still, Williams wouldn't have solved our problem of offensive playcalling and execution. Some reports have said he would have kept Al Saunders, but I've heard others say he wanted to go in a different direction because he didn't feel like Saunders' style of offense would help his defense out.

Anyway, at the end of the day what ultimately did in Williams was that Snyder made the decision to entrust all football authority to Vinny Cerrato. And Cerrato didn't want Williams and Williams didn't want to report to Cerrato.

i've also read that Williams didn't want Campbell, whom he viewed as a "coach killer." I give Williams credit for that. He was on the money, there.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

i've also read that Williams didn't want Campbell, whom he viewed as a "coach killer." I give Williams credit for that. He was on the money, there.

I think Vinny is more of a coach killer right now than Campbell.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think Vinny is more of a coach killer right now than Campbell.

in that sense, Williams was right on both points.

[SmootSmack]

That makes sense since Zorn calls the two-minute drills. A two-minute/4th down (Zorn) vs. passing plays (Sherman Lewis) vs. running plays (Sherman Smith) break-down would be interesting but would have so many caveats it'd be tough to pull off. Plus Lewis would have to factor into the running plays also because he tells Smith when to call a running play.

And a lot of people seem to be saying Chris Meidt is playing as critical a role as anyone in calling the offense.

This clearly tells me that our next head coach should be Jermis Zolesmidt

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

That makes sense since Zorn calls the two-minute drills. A two-minute/4th down (Zorn) vs. passing plays (Sherman Lewis) vs. running plays (Sherman Smith) break-down would be interesting but would have so many caveats it'd be tough to pull off. Plus Lewis would have to factor into the running plays also because he tells Smith when to call a running play.

And a lot of people seem to be saying Chris Meidt is playing as critical a role as anyone in calling the offense.

This clearly tells me that our next head coach should be Jermis Zolesmidt

Who?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

That makes sense since Zorn calls the two-minute drills. A two-minute/4th down (Zorn) vs. passing plays (Sherman Lewis) vs. running plays (Sherman Smith) break-down would be interesting but would have so many caveats it'd be tough to pull off. Plus Lewis would have to factor into the running plays also because he tells Smith when to call a running play.

And a lot of people seem to be saying Chris Meidt is playing as critical a role as anyone in calling the offense.

This clearly tells me that our next head coach should be Jermis Zolesmidt

Hearing Cooley explain the process today he was almost laughing at one point.

I'm actually surprised that the process has gone as smoothly as it has, but honestly the fact that Sherman Lewis has little to no communication with Campbell is amazing to me.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Hearing Cooley explain the process today he was almost laughing at one point.

I'm actually surprised that the process has gone as smoothly as it has, but honestly the fact that Sherman Lewis has little to no communication with Campbell is amazing to me.

I think in a way it's good. You'd see and hear Zorn on the sidelines and it was like he spent most of his time coaching Campbell during the game. That's not what he should be doing as the head coach. Come game time let Campbell play the game, that's not the time to be working on technique and fundamentals, in my opinion.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think in a way it's good. You'd see and hear Zorn on the sidelines and it was like he spent most of his time coaching Campbell during the game. That's not what he should be doing as the head coach. Come game time let Campbell play the game, that's not the time to be working on technique and fundamentals, in my opinion.

Yeah I see that point. My take is you would think that in order for everyone to be on the same page, there would be some level of face to face communication going on between the guy calling the plays, and the person who ultimately runs them.

I'm not saying it's necessary for Lewis to talk with JC during the game, but the fact they don't talk at all during the week during the installation of the game plan is just very odd to me.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Yeah I see that point. My take is you would think that in order for everyone to be on the same page, there would be some level of face to face communication going on between the guy calling the plays, and the person who ultimately runs them.

I'm not saying it's necessary for Lewis to talk with JC during the game, but the fact they don't talk at all during the week during the installation of the game plan is just very odd to me.

Yeah it's peculiar

Cooley describes play-calling process | Washington Examiner

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Hearing Cooley explain the process today he was almost laughing at one point.

I'm actually surprised that the process has gone as smoothly as it has, but honestly the fact that Sherman Lewis has little to no communication with Campbell is amazing to me.

I wonder if he either trusts Meidt and Zorn (I guess Smith too to a lesser extent) and doesn't feel like he needs to have direct communication with JC to instill the plan or what.

The diagram yesterday showed Meidt and Zorn doing the gameplan.. so maybe he feels like that and his conferencing with Meidt and Zorn is enough and JC doesn't need a third guy in his ear

ooooooor

if he just has no interest in JC

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

That makes sense since Zorn calls the two-minute drills. A two-minute/4th down (Zorn) vs. passing plays (Sherman Lewis) vs. running plays (Sherman Smith) break-down would be interesting but would have so many caveats it'd be tough to pull off. Plus Lewis would have to factor into the running plays also because he tells Smith when to call a running play.

And a lot of people seem to be saying Chris Meidt is playing as critical a role as anyone in calling the offense.

This clearly tells me that our next head coach should be Jermis Zolesmidt

lol! ive heard thet same thing about Chris. If we keep a WCO and don't hire Shanahan, perhaps the new coach would consider keeping chris around. If not, i'm sure he'll find work elsewhere. he plays a crucial role in managing a chaotic playcalling setup...

my main feeling is that there are too many people involved in the process. I understand that Zorn likes to call plays and this is probably the last chance he'll ever have to do it, but i'd bet we'd have better success (and perhaps even won the past 2 games... keeping us alive in the wildcard hunt) if Zorn didn't interject himself in the process. It no doubt breaks whatever flow the other playcallers have going.

[CRedskinsRule]

what if chris meidt is being groomed to be the next OC/play caller? I think Zorn could be a HC, he has kept this team performing, but his playcalling skills seem inadequate. I like Sherm Lewis, but he most certainly is a stop gap solution, so if we end up not blowing it up, but instead giving one more year with a pledge of really fixing the OL through draft/FA, maybe Meidt becomes OC/ and the Sherms are the sacrificial lambs on the offensive side of the ball. With Blache retiring our staff would look like this:
HC - Zorn
OC - Meidt - Full play calling duties
DC - Gray
ST - Smith

With a FO where VC is reduced and Marty or Holmgren are brought in as GM.

I am not sure how this would work, but I think I would see this positively.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

what if chris meidt is being groomed to be the next OC/play caller? I think Zorn could be a HC, he has kept this team performing, but his playcalling skills seem inadequate. I like Sherm Lewis, but he most certainly is a stop gap solution, so if we end up not blowing it up, but instead giving one more year with a pledge of really fixing the OL through draft/FA, maybe Meidt becomes OC/ and the Sherms are the sacrificial lambs on the offensive side of the ball. With Blache retiring our staff would look like this:
HC - Zorn
OC - Meidt - Full play calling duties
DC - Gray
ST - Smith

With a FO where VC is reduced and Marty or Holmgren are brought in as GM.

I am not sure how this would work, but I think I would see this positively.

IF - and only IF - all the big names rebuff Snyder, I can see something like this happening, especially if the offense continues to show improvement as the season winds down. However, I think equally as likely in that scenario would be:

HC - Gray
OC/QB coach - Meidt - Full play calling duties
DC - Blache (or, if he retires Kirk Olivadotti or John Palemro)
ST - Smith

I also think its possible that if Snyder can't land a big name coach, Gregg Williams would be one of the candidates he interviews and seriously considers hiring.

[SmootSmack]

I can't think of many GM/President candidates who would be willing to come in and generally keep the status quo. You're probably talking about reaching for someone like Steve Mariucci (but that's a big reach). Or promoting someone from within.

Meidt might stay but overall I think if Zorn goes (and Vinny goes) there will be some serious housecleaning

[53Fan]

Rebuid the 0-line and JC gets better. It really ISN'T complicated. Will he be elite? Probably not. But does anyone think our record wouldn't be much better with a GOOD o-line? Please...