Gardner Good as Gone

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 01-30-2005, 12:38 AM

I would bet my life we only get a very, very low 2nd rounder (i.e. from the Chargers) or we get a high 3rd rounder.

I'm not so much worried about Gardner's trade value as I am about Smoot's situation. If we let this guy go without any compensation (because we can't afford to tag him), I'll be livid. We should be able to get a very high second rounder for Smoot.

If we packaged our 3rd rounder (9th in the third round) and a second round pick we'd get for Smoot, we'd be able to get a low 1st round pick. That would leave us with the 9th overall pick, another first round pick, a 3rd rounder, a 4th rounder, and a pick in the sixth and seventh rounds.

We'd definately be able to draft a top notch wideout (like Braylon Edwards, Mike Williams, or Troy Williamson - who many feel will watch his his stock skyrocket after the combine), a solid starting defensive end or tackle, and some other quality players.

With that kind of draft, a new center (i.e. the mauling Titans' center Hartwig), and a new blocking tight end, our roster would be so, so sweet.

My revised ideal 2005 starting roster:

QB- Ramsey
HB- Portis
H-back- Cooley
LT- Samuels
LG- Dockery
C- Hartwig (via free agency)
RG- Thomas
RT- Jansen
TE- ??? (offseason acquisition)
WR- Coles
WR- Williams (via first draft pick)

RE- ???
DT- Griffin
DT- Noble
LE- Wynn
OLB- Arrington
OLB- Washington
MLB- Pierce
CB- Springs
CB- Harris
FS- Taylor
SS- Bowen/Lott/Clark

SmootSmack · 01-30-2005, 01:44 AM

Interesting you mention the Chargers RF. With Marty there it seems like a possible destination for both Gardner and Smoot. I wonder if maybe packaging them together is a possibility

offiss · 01-30-2005, 02:28 AM

I can't get rid of Gardner fast enough, I don't see a team giving up their only second rd pick for him, they could offer a second if a team has multiple 2nd rd pick's his salary might make it possible, San Diego is a definent possibility, I could see Gruden going after him as well we would be sitting pretty come draft day if we could manage a 2nd for him but my guess will be more like a 3rd. If Smoot want's to break the bank then I say we get a late first for him if we can't get that much for him then he obviously isn't worth the asking price, as well I just feel Smoot is overestimating himself and not just to us he will find out if he seek's a deal else where that the offer's aren't near what he want's. If he stay's great, but if he goes we should be able to get a late first for him, that would give us a lot of ammo for the up coming draft.

01-30-2005, 01:44 AM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Interesting you mention the Chargers RF. With Marty there it seems like a possible destination for both Gardner and Smoot. I wonder if maybe packaging them together is a possibility __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You Last edited by SmootSmack; 01-30-2005 at 01:51 AM.

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01-30-2005, 12:38 AM	#1
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	I would bet my life we only get a very, very low 2nd rounder (i.e. from the Chargers) or we get a high 3rd rounder. I'm not so much worried about Gardner's trade value as I am about Smoot's situation. If we let this guy go without any compensation (because we can't afford to tag him), I'll be livid. We should be able to get a very high second rounder for Smoot. If we packaged our 3rd rounder (9th in the third round) and a second round pick we'd get for Smoot, we'd be able to get a low 1st round pick. That would leave us with the 9th overall pick, another first round pick, a 3rd rounder, a 4th rounder, and a pick in the sixth and seventh rounds. We'd definately be able to draft a top notch wideout (like Braylon Edwards, Mike Williams, or Troy Williamson - who many feel will watch his his stock skyrocket after the combine), a solid starting defensive end or tackle, and some other quality players. With that kind of draft, a new center (i.e. the mauling Titans' center Hartwig), and a new blocking tight end, our roster would be so, so sweet. My revised ideal 2005 starting roster: QB- Ramsey HB- Portis H-back- Cooley LT- Samuels LG- Dockery C- Hartwig (via free agency) RG- Thomas RT- Jansen TE- ??? (offseason acquisition) WR- Coles WR- Williams (via first draft pick) RE- ??? DT- Griffin DT- Noble LE- Wynn OLB- Arrington OLB- Washington MLB- Pierce CB- Springs CB- Harris FS- Taylor SS- Bowen/Lott/Clark

01-30-2005, 02:28 AM	#3
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 62 Posts: 3,097	I can't get rid of Gardner fast enough, I don't see a team giving up their only second rd pick for him, they could offer a second if a team has multiple 2nd rd pick's his salary might make it possible, San Diego is a definent possibility, I could see Gruden going after him as well we would be sitting pretty come draft day if we could manage a 2nd for him but my guess will be more like a 3rd. If Smoot want's to break the bank then I say we get a late first for him if we can't get that much for him then he obviously isn't worth the asking price, as well I just feel Smoot is overestimating himself and not just to us he will find out if he seek's a deal else where that the offer's aren't near what he want's. If he stay's great, but if he goes we should be able to get a late first for him, that would give us a lot of ammo for the up coming draft.

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