Offensive Line

skinsfan69 · 11-09-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster

As do I, he's seriously going to get a major injury behind this joke of a line. He's doing great considering what he has to work with. Sacked 11 times in the past 2 weeks.

Well said.

He's still looking at the line too much instead of looking downfield, not to say I can blame him. But kudos to JC for manning up and coming back in there to get abused some more. JC is showing a ton of heart and I respect him for that.

skinsfan69 · 11-09-2009, 09:26 AM

can someone explain why rinehart isn't on the field??? wtf???????????????????????????

sportscurmudgeon · 11-09-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

can someone explain why rinehart isn't on the field??? wtf???????????????????????????

Let me give you three words on this topic:

He - - - Can't - - - Play!!!

redsk1 · 11-09-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Let me give you three words on this topic:

He - - - Can't - - - Play!!!

I think SkinsFan69 meant to ask, why did we draft a guy in the 3rd round that can't play.

If CR can't start on our offensive line then he should be banished from the NFL forever.

skinsfan69 · 11-09-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Let me give you three words on this topic:

He - - - Can't - - - Play!!!

Mike Williams is simply atrocious and so is Montgomery. If Rinehart can't get in now with the way the line is playing then they REALLY REALLY blew it on this guy. Someone has got to take the fall for putting these clowns in NFL uniforms.

rbanerjee23 · 11-09-2009, 09:46 AM

Mike Williams wouldn't be on another team much less starting and Heyer has just regressed. Montgomery is a converted D lineman and dockery is just average. All in all, I don't think worst O line in the league is too far fetched.

dmek25 · 11-09-2009, 09:49 AM

im straight up agreeing with Schneed on this. year after year the skins have by passed need on the o line. and then reached for players like Williams. i would played Ed williams at center the rest of the year, to see if he can play. Rabach down right blows.next season, the only lineman i bring back are Dockery, and Ed Williams. that's it

GTripp0012 · 11-09-2009, 10:22 AM

As much blame as the tackles deserve, the entire point of the scheme is based around having three interior lineman to pick up blitzes, and somehow there's no pocket to step up into away from the rush.

Bugel should have corrected the simple pass pro flaws in the bye week. It's not like anyone would have been able to make these five guys play well, but come'on. There's something to be said for not embarassing yourself out there.

Bill B · 11-09-2009, 10:27 AM

Maybe we should stat ARE at qb to deal with the pathetic offensive line? At least with ARE at qb he could be somewhat effective and use his speed avoiding the constant jailbreaks since as a WR he doesn't do much.

CRedskinsRule · 11-09-2009, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill B

Maybe we should stat ARE at qb to deal with the pathetic offensive line? At least with ARE at qb he could be somewhat effective and use his speed avoiding the constant jailbreaks since as a WR he doesn't do much.

And it would make use of his sideline to sideline speed

redsk1 · 11-09-2009, 02:51 PM

I was just curious how bad Heyers backup must be considering Heyer is horrible. It's almost laughable.

I felt bad for JC and the team. He got beat up and everyone knew it but couldn't do anything about it. It's not the players, they're doing the best they can. They just don't have the talent.

sportscurmudgeon · 11-09-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by redsk1

I was just curious how bad Heyers backup must be considering Heyer is horrible. It's almost laughable.

I felt bad for JC and the team. He got beat up and everyone knew it but couldn't do anything about it. It's not the players, they're doing the best they can. They just don't have the talent.

Back during OTAs, Vinny did an interview where he said that Stephon Heyer was "unbeatable" as long as he remembered to stay low. We have now seen Stephon Heyer play full time for half a season and - unfortunately - he is eminantly "beatable" whether or not he stays low or stays high or keeps his head up his butt...

If Vinny watched Heyer play/practice and TRULY believed what he said, then you can see why the Skins never draft offensive linemen - - Vinny thinks Heyer is a starter and by that yardstick there are a thousand guys out there in "unsigned free agent territory" who are just as good.

skinsfan69 · 11-09-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon;622967[B

]Back during OTAs, Vinny did an interview where he said that Stephon Heyer was "unbeatable" as long as he remembered to stay low. [/B]We have now seen Stephon Heyer play full time for half a season and - unfortunately - he is eminantly "beatable" whether or not he stays low or stays high or keeps his head up his butt...

If Vinny watched Heyer play/practice and TRULY believed what he said, then you can see why the Skins never draft offensive linemen - - Vinny thinks Heyer is a starter and by that yardstick there are a thousand guys out there in "unsigned free agent territory" who are just as good.

Hey Vinny. Do they have pads on during OTA's? No.

CrazyCanuck · 11-09-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by redsk1

I was just curious how bad Heyers backup must be considering Heyer is horrible. It's almost laughable.

I'm quite sure Heyer is the worst O-lineman I've seen in 30 years. Did anyone else notice he goes offside on EVERY play?? It's his only chance of stopping the opponent. Luckily the refs feel bad and they only call him for offsides 1 out of 5 times...

Ruhskins · 11-09-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

I'm quite sure Heyer is the worst O-lineman I've seen in 30 years. Did anyone else notice he goes offside on EVERY play?? It's his only chance of stopping the opponent. Luckily the refs feel bad and they only call him for offsides 1 out of 5 times...

According to Mosley Heyer is going back to RT and Levi Jones will be at LT.

Cinton Portis doubtful; Chris Horton, Mike Williams out for Washington Redskins - ESPN

11-09-2009, 09:26 AM	#2
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,586	Re: Offensive Line can someone explain why rinehart isn't on the field??? wtf???????????????????????????

11-09-2009, 09:46 AM	#6
rbanerjee23 The Starter Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,440	Re: Offensive Line Mike Williams wouldn't be on another team much less starting and Heyer has just regressed. Montgomery is a converted D lineman and dockery is just average. All in all, I don't think worst O line in the league is too far fetched. __________________ "Tough times don't last but tough people do" -Mike Shanahan HTTR

11-09-2009, 09:49 AM	#7
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 64 Posts: 10,672	Re: Offensive Line im straight up agreeing with Schneed on this. year after year the skins have by passed need on the o line. and then reached for players like Williams. i would played Ed williams at center the rest of the year, to see if he can play. Rabach down right blows.next season, the only lineman i bring back are Dockery, and Ed Williams. that's it __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

11-09-2009, 10:22 AM	#8
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	Re: Offensive Line As much blame as the tackles deserve, the entire point of the scheme is based around having three interior lineman to pick up blitzes, and somehow there's no pocket to step up into away from the rush. Bugel should have corrected the simple pass pro flaws in the bye week. It's not like anyone would have been able to make these five guys play well, but come'on. There's something to be said for not embarassing yourself out there. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

11-09-2009, 10:27 AM	#9
Bill B Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 721	Re: Offensive Line Maybe we should stat ARE at qb to deal with the pathetic offensive line? At least with ARE at qb he could be somewhat effective and use his speed avoiding the constant jailbreaks since as a WR he doesn't do much.

11-09-2009, 02:51 PM	#11
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Offensive Line I was just curious how bad Heyers backup must be considering Heyer is horrible. It's almost laughable. I felt bad for JC and the team. He got beat up and everyone knew it but couldn't do anything about it. It's not the players, they're doing the best they can. They just don't have the talent.

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