Portis is a BIG problem!!!

[SmootSmack]

In the long run, neither Portis or Betts is the answer. It's just the nature of the game and the nature of life that they have only so much left to give as full-time backs. Maybe a year or two more. Maybe.

[joethiesmanfan]

Marronandblack30 I see you have Zorn as your Avator. Jim zorn what a waste of head sets!!!!

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Marronandblack30 I see you have Zorn as your Avator. Jim zorn what a waste of head sets!!!!

Yawnnnnn

[Pocket$ $traight]

I think the bottom line is that Portis is hurt. It happened sometime last year after or during he was leading the league in rushing. Now because he is hurt, he has missed practice time and between not practicing and being injured, he just is not effective right now.

He should be benched until he is 100% and I would say that if Betts continues to play like this, Betts should be our starting runningback until Clinton EARNS the starting spot back. Unfortunately it seems that starting runningback is Portis' job if he feels like he can play. Zorn's press conference today didn't give me confidence that anything has changed and when Clinton feels like playing he will be back in, even if he is still hurt.

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I think the bottom line is that Portis is hurt. It happened sometime last year after or during he was leading the league in rushing. Now because he is hurt, he has missed practice time and between not practicing and being injured, he just is not effective right now.

He should be benched until he is 100% and I would say that if Betts continues to play like this, Betts should be our starting runningback until Clinton EARNS the starting spot back. Unfortunately it seems that starting runningback is Portis' job if he feels like he can play. Zorn's press conference today didn't give me confidence that anything has changed and when Clinton feels like playing he will be back in, even if he is still hurt.

I totally agree....At the same time, Portis is always hurt thats who he is. Kinda of like Bryan Westbrook or Bob Sanders...the "he is very good when he is healthy" arguement gets tired after 2-3 years.

I agree about Zorns PC...he sounded like as soon as Portis is healthy the job is his.

[joethiesmanfan]

Look at Portis's stats. Where in those stats do you see a player that is always hurt. If Betts didn't fumble so much Gibbs would have let him run more. AP has Chester, LT has the short dude, Jacobs has Bradshaw, Barber has choice (Felix Jones always hurt). We tried it with Betts during Gibbs II, but he kept fumbling!!! Portis does not fumble that much son. One fumble per season.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Look at Portis's stats. Where in those stats do you see a player that is always hurt. If Betts didn't fumble so much Gibbs would have let him run more. AP has Chester, LT has the short dude, Jacobs has Bradshaw, Barber has choice (Felix Jones always hurt). We tried it with Betts during Gibbs II, but he kept fumbling!!! Portis does not fumble that much son. One fumble per season.

You're high on crack!

[SolidSnake84]

One Fumble per season? I've read your posts and i like your style, but you have to be making a joke here. Please tell me you are.

I do agree with the posters who said that something happened to Portis between late last year and earlier this year. Maybe they were just keeping quiet about it because of his salary and all, but who knows.

Because it used to be where he would just practice a little bit, but now he's reached some "elite" level in his mind that says he doesn't have to practice, or workout, or do anything team related during the week. Just put the pads on for gameday, stumble forward for 2 yards, and then say after the game that the Oline has you limited...rinse and repeat

[BaltimoreSkins]

Zorn has said Portis is the starter when he comes back. I hope he changes his mind. Betts has looked good in both the Atlanta and Denver games.

[dgw090767]

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Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS
I dunno know guys but with Portis out the offense looked alot better.
Portis slows our offense down it seems. What do u guys think?

I've yet to see the improvement. We still have the same whopping 17 points.


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I don't get your point even if you take away the special team touch down they scored 20 pionts. I don't know where you learned math, but where I did 20 is more than 17......hunh?

[SolidSnake84]

We just all need to relax here. I didnt sense any racism in these posts.. There is no racism on this board. That is the kind of garbage you see over at extremeskins, trust me on that guys.

I dont think anybody can deny that the offense has looked better with Portis out. I can't scientifically say why, but we can look at the stat sheets and see where the other backs have made more of a difference. Are they as good all around as Portis? Probably not. But Portis hasn't been healthy since last year, and he is showing his age and is in a decline...Portis has tons of carries and lots of total yardage, and at some point any back breaks down.

I think they could maximize what he has left by using him in a 50/50 type role like other teams do. But i dont see him personally going for that....

[irish]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

We just all need to relax here. I didnt sense any racism in these posts.. There is no racism on this board. That is the kind of garbage you see over at extremeskins, trust me on that guys.

I dont think anybody can deny that the offense has looked better with Portis out. I can't scientifically say why, but we can look at the stat sheets and see where the other backs have made more of a difference. Are they as good all around as Portis? Probably not. But Portis hasn't been healthy since last year, and he is showing his age and is in a decline...Portis has tons of carries and lots of total yardage, and at some point any back breaks down.

I think they could maximize what he has left by using him in a 50/50 type role like other teams do. But i dont see him personally going for that....

I think a big reason the back-ups are running better than Portis is that they are actually practicing with the line while CP sits out of practice nursing injuries. Practicing with the line has given the back-ups a sense of timing the holes and the line has a sense of the backs timing in hitting those holes. CP just hasnt practiced enough to develop that sense of timing with the line and as a result his performance has suffered.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by irish

I think a big reason the back-ups are running better than Portis is that they are actually practicing with the line while CP sits out of practice nursing injuries. Practicing with the line has given the back-ups a sense of timing the holes and the line has a sense of the backs timing in hitting those holes. CP just hasnt practiced enough to develop that sense of timing with the line and as a result his performance has suffered.

i would agree, but Betts is missing practice now. It's a grueling job to be a smashmouth runningback. Practices are gonna be missed. It makes it hard with the line itself in flux. It's just a down year for Portis, you don't get rid of a work horse that quickly. Betts has had his chances before and has fumbled them away. I am scared of what might happen. People are saying Portis misses practices Why???? Why, the same reason Betts is missing practices this week. Remember when he played in that preseason game and hurt his shoulder? People!!! don't think this is not a normal situtaion. Riggo drinking booze at the practice facility? Joey T needs to man up. Gibbs let Riggo get away with the same stuff. In the interview, Gibbs said he let him do what he wanted. Riggo had Kelvin Bryant and Joe Washington. Remember????

[irish]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

i would agree, but Betts is missing practice now. It's a grueling job to be a smashmouth runningback. Practices are gonna be missed. It makes it hard with the line itself in flux. It's just a down year for Portis, you don't get rid of a work horse that quickly. Betts has had his chances before and has fumbled them away. I am scared of what might happen. People are saying Portis misses practices Why???? Why, the same reason Betts is missing practices this week. Remember when he played in that preseason game and hurt his shoulder? People!!! don't think this is not a normal situtaion. Riggo drinking booze at the practice facility? Joey T needs to man up. Gibbs let Riggo get away with the same stuff. In the interview, Gibbs said he let him do what he wanted. Riggo had Kelvin Bryant and Joe Washington. Remember????

True, practices will be missed and Betts will miss some this week but he has practiced much more that CP this year. My point is that I cant remember the last time CP had a full week of practice. I know he's dinged and its a viscious circle where CP cant practice because he's dinged and he isnt productive because he cant practice. Practice is important for timing and right now CP just cant get enough reps to get his timing down.

[maroonandblack30]

anyone who says CP is a top 5 back is clueless...you really cant think of more than 4 RBs who you would rather have?

CP is the 3rd best RB on his team.