Portis is a BIG problem!!!

[tryfuhl]

I liked how quickly/hard the holes were hit today

also, the reads on the blocking or lack thereof seemed better

Portis runs unenthused

[12thMan]

Take away that 74 yard run, and Portis is done this year. He hasn't done one damn thing worth a damn. He's given us some really good years, but he's done. I don't even see him laying out blitzers like he used to.

Losing two steps in the NFL is two too many. Trade him or bench him. Rock and Betts were much better and ran much harder.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Take away that 74 yard run, and Portis is done this year. He hasn't done one damn thing worth a damn. He's given us some really good years, but he's done. I don't even see him laying out blitzers like he used to.

Losing two steps in the NFL is two too many. Trade him or bench him. Rock and Betts were much better and ran much harder.

We're too financially vested in him to do either of those. The only we can hope for is that the CBA doesn't get signed and we go into an uncapped year where we can release players with no ill effect.

I don't think this is a complete reflection on Portis's ability. From the looks of it we made adjustments at half and didn't give up on the run. Atlanta seemed prepared for some pass heavy offense so we could get back into the game.

We did manage to run better in the 2nd half though. I can't completely put that on Portis given the circumstances.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

We're too financially vested in him to do either of those. The only we can hope for is that the CBA doesn't get signed and we go into an uncapped year where we can release players with no ill effect.

I don't think this is a complete reflection on Portis's ability. From the looks of it we made adjustments at half and didn't give up on the run. Atlanta seemed prepared for some pass heavy offense so we could get back into the game.

We did manage to run better in the 2nd half though. I can't completely put that on Portis given the circumstances.

You ain't kiddin. Snyder doesn't need an uncapped NFL to win, he needs an uncapped NFL just to keep the roster from completely collapsing. Portis will be on the books bigtime for years and will likely never contribute anything more to the franchise.

[mcarey032]

Problem with the other backs is that they don't block nearly as well as Portis does. Other than that I was really surprised to see how well Betts and Cartwright played. They really showed up and we actually had a running game that took some pressure off of Jason Campbell unlike in games past where the running game was virtually non-existent.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

We're too financially vested in him to do either of those. The only we can hope for is that the CBA doesn't get signed and we go into an uncapped year where we can release players with no ill effect.

I don't think this is a complete reflection on Portis's ability. From the looks of it we made adjustments at half and didn't give up on the run. Atlanta seemed prepared for some pass heavy offense so we could get back into the game.

We did manage to run better in the 2nd half though. I can't completely put that on Portis given the circumstances.

That's a good point -- we all talk as though it isn't going to be signed.

But what if they do sign it? That's going to crush the dreams of quite a few Redskins fans, and those within the organization too.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

We're too financially vested in him to do either of those. The only we can hope for is that the CBA doesn't get signed and we go into an uncapped year where we can release players with no ill effect.

I don't think this is a complete reflection on Portis's ability. From the looks of it we made adjustments at half and didn't give up on the run. Atlanta seemed prepared for some pass heavy offense so we could get back into the game.

We did manage to run better in the 2nd half though. I can't completely put that on Portis given the circumstances.

Portis has had enough and just doesn't care. He has the Barry Saunders' Syndrome. Guy has been one of the few t rue ballers out there for years, and now he has had enough. Seriously now, I think the guy has already thrown in the towel. Can you blame him?

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Portis has had enough and just doesn't care. He has the Barry Saunders' Syndrome. Guy has been one of the few t rue ballers out there for years, and now he has had enough. Seriously now, I think the guy has already thrown in the towel. Can you blame him?

Yes, I can blame him. He's highly overpaid & doesn't perform all the tasks required of him, i.e. practice. I know he's been banged up over the years, but I don't buy all of it about him being that hurt during every week (this week's an exception, he def. shouldn't play).

But the main problem is he's no longer good enough to get away w/his selfish ways. He misses holes, even if there only there for 2 yard gains, he stumbles over his & the line's feet. He just doesn't look much like a starting nfl rb this year. I wasn't surprised that Betts came in & looked sharper. I know he got better blocking but he looks much more explosive & decisive than CP.

[huntz]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Take away that 74 yard run, and Portis is done this year. He hasn't done one damn thing worth a damn. He's given us some really good years, but he's done. I don't even see him laying out blitzers like he used to.

Losing two steps in the NFL is two too many. Trade him or bench him. Rock and Betts were much better and ran much harder.

He is done. Don't think any team would trade for him now. Rock and Betts are straight ahead; no speed to get around the end. This O is doomed.

[Bushead]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Take away that 74 yard run, and Portis is done this year. He hasn't done one damn thing worth a damn. He's given us some really good years, but he's done. I don't even see him laying out blitzers like he used to.

Losing two steps in the NFL is two too many. Trade him or bench him. Rock and Betts were much better and ran much harder.

And in all honesty, most any other back in the league would have scored on that run with one man to beat.

[huntz]

Originally Posted by Bushead

And in all honesty, most any other back in the league would have scored on that run with one man to beat.

A young, talented RB with speed. What everyone in the NFL is looking for. Is it in this team's future with everything else in the offense to address next year?

[maroonandblack30]

Portis sucks...end of story. Over hyped over paid prima donna. I hope he is ok from the concussion, but I won't lose sleep if I never see him in a skins jersey again.

Betts and Rock are at minimum equal to Portis.

Im guessing he has a boat load of guaranteed money coming to him in the next two years, so we are probably stuck with him.

Just add him to the list of Skins that are stealing money and giving minimal effort.

[over the mountain]

edit - drunk
go skins!!

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

lol sadly this same thread was brought in the offseason in which many posters on this board piggy-backed with the mods with such statements as "you dont know football" or "yeah lets blame our rb with near;y 1500 yds NS top 10 rb ranking" . . . yada yada yada

yeah dont blame cp, i you want a rationale reason you have to ask the mods who apparently when this subject of this skins being married contractually to portis in the offseason is a non issue..... yawn.

sadly, most mods are on record as saying there needs to be a change at rb, please compare this with their put down thoughts just a few months ago.

go skins!!

Let's not get crazy now...

You're basing this on one game. Now Betts & Rock are kings because they ran against a defense that was preparing for an offense to pass in the 2nd half? Hardly...if either Betts or Rock are keyed & schemed on like Portis is in the week leading to the game they wouldn't have the same output.

I'm not a believer in either Betts or Rock under this dismal OL. Our OL is more of a cause for poor rushing game than our RBs are at this point.


One half is hardly reference enough to cite change or indict culpability.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Let's not get crazy now...

You're basing this on one game. Now Betts & Rock are kings because they ran against a defense that was preparing for an offense to pass in the 2nd half? Hardly...if either Betts or Rock are keyed & schemed on like Portis is in the week leading to the game they wouldn't have the same output.

I'm not a believer in either Betts or Rock under this dismal OL. Our OL is more of a cause for poor rushing game than our RBs are at this point.


One half is hardly reference enough to cite change or indict culpability.

For the most part I agree with your post here. But even though the sample size is small, Betts certainly looked like he had a heck of a lot more bounce and pop than Portis has all year. Portis is also battling through a myriad of injuries to his right leg, and now he has a concussion to deal with. I would have no issue with shutting him down for a few games or at least making the backfield a full on time share.

As far as the thread title, I don't know if he's a "BIG" problem, but he's not really helping us at all either. His contract however will become a GIANT problem if a new CBA gets signed.