The D. Hall incident

over the mountain · 11-09-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I fully applaud Mike Smith. He saw his QB get hit late and he wanted a piece of someone. I have no problem with that. Guys talk shit on the field all the time....there was some pushing and shoving and some f bombs. Big deal. It's football, not golf. My problem is why was Hall even involved? As usual he didn't hit anyone. Like a lil' bitch he walked over there looking for trouble AFTER the hit. His non tackling ass should've walked back to the huddle.

a coach should never want a piece of someone and def should never put hands on a player.

this seems like that GB coach and warren sapp years ago when sapp blindsided chad clifton and teh GB coach tried talkin smack to sapp after the game. a coach needs to be held to a higher standard.

go for AH to step in there a move that pile back.

firstdown · 11-09-2009, 11:56 AM

I like when AH comes running in the whole pile of At. players went backwards. The more I watch the clip the more I see the coaches grabbing Hall and hall is not grabbing them. I always thought that as a coach you pull back your players not grab one from the other team.

FalconsFan · 11-09-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I like when AH comes running in the whole pile of At. players went backwards. The more I watch the clip the more I see the coaches grabbing Hall and hall is not grabbing them. I always thought that as a coach you pull back your players not grab one from the other team.

Is that why Hall kept pushing his way back into the mass of players and coaches?

firstdown · 11-09-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FalconsFan

Is that why Hall kept pushing his way back into the mass of players and coaches?

Watch the video they grabbed him and pulled him around. I'm not defending him I'm just saying what I saw and when it looked like he was leaving the coach then grabed him.

CRedskinsRule · 11-09-2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FalconsFan

Is that why Hall kept pushing his way back into the mass of players and coaches?

look at the video, Hall was pulled in by one of your coaches and your players surrounded him. Hall jawed and made remarks, certainly stupid, but one of your coaches actually grabbed his jersey and pulled him further into your sideline.

FalconsFan · 11-09-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

look at the video, Hall was pulled in by one of your coaches and your players surrounded him. Hall jawed and made remarks, certainly stupid, but one of your coaches actually grabbed his jersey and pulled him further into your sideline.

If that's what you want to believe.. I saw it live and on video replay.. Hall is a punk and he instigated the entire mess.

12thMan · 11-09-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FalconsFan

If that's what you want to believe.. I saw it live and on video replay.. Hall is a punk and he instigated the entire mess.

So you came on a Redskins board to tell us Hall is a punk?

SFREDSKIN · 11-09-2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FalconsFan

If that's what you want to believe.. I saw it live and on video replay.. Hall is a punk and he instigated the entire mess.

Yep everything you say is correct. Unfortunately we have some fans that think cause the skins paid him big money that he is some kind of superstar. I can't wait till they play Oakland and he tries that shit on their sideline. Tom "Jawbreaker, Womanbeater" Cable will kick his ass.

CRedskinsRule · 11-09-2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FalconsFan

If that's what you want to believe.. I saw it live and on video replay.. Hall is a punk and he instigated the entire mess.

ok he instigated it. let's say I agree, does that justify two of your coaches making very bad decisions. I saw it live and on the video in this thread also. yay

Rajmahal33 · 11-09-2009, 12:55 PM

It is never ok for a coach to put his hand on a player (esp that of an opposing team), just like it is never ok for anyone to put their hands on a referee. Imagine if the situation was reversed and hall had pushed Smith or one of the members of the ATL coaching staff. You can bet your bottom dollar that Goodell would be handing out an unprecedented suspension to whoever that player may be, much less D. Hall.

This issue has nothing to do with the player and coach in the scenario, the reputation of either party, or the circumstances surrounding the incident (unless someone genuinely felt that another person's long term health or life was at stake, neither of which was the case). This is a plain black and white issue, no gray area.

It almost reminds me of the NBA's bench rule. No matter what the issue or profile of the player, if they leave the bench for any reason during a fight, it's an automatic 1-game suspension. I think football should institute a similar rule involving player-coach interactions.

BDBohnzie · 11-09-2009, 12:17 PM

Doesn't matter who started it or not, and while I don't discredit Hall at all, the entire Atlanta bench shares blame in this as well. You see Hall being physically pulled into the melee by the ATL Coaching staff. Whether he's talking shit or not, whether he started it or not and whether he's a punk or not, that is totally unacceptable. The Falcons lost their cool period.

Mike Smith's beef should have been with Landry, who got up after the hit and trotted back to the huddle. Instead, he lost his cool and took it out on the completely wrong person.

FalconsFan · 11-09-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

Doesn't matter who started it or not, and while I don't discredit Hall at all, the entire Atlanta bench shares blame in this as well. You see Hall being physically pulled into the melee by the ATL Coaching staff. Whether he's talking shit or not, whether he started it or not and whether he's a punk or not, that is totally unacceptable. The Falcons lost their cool period.

Mike Smith's beef should have been with Landry, who got up after the hit and trotted back to the huddle. Instead, he lost his cool and took it out on the completely wrong person.

If you watch the video with your eyes open you'll see that the Landry issue was completely separate from what happened with Hall. Coach Smith defended his players and sideline, the Falcons are not to be messed with. It's really too bad that Hall got his feelings hurt when he was traded to the Raiders but he had no reason to step a foot onto the Falcons sideline.

I just wonder how some of you would be reacting if the situation was reversed. Frankly I love that Smith stands up for his players, maybe if the Skins had any heart they'd do the same. How long exactly did it take for any players to come to Halls aide?

Paintrain · 11-09-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FalconsFan

If you watch the video with your eyes open you'll see that the Landry issue was completely separate from what happened with Hall. Coach Smith defended his players and sideline, the Falcons are not to be messed with. It's really too bad that Hall got his feelings hurt when he was traded to the Raiders but he had no reason to step a foot onto the Falcons sideline.

I just wonder how some of you would be reacting if the situation was reversed. Frankly I love that Smith stands up for his players, maybe if the Skins had any heart they'd do the same. How long exactly did it take for any players to come to Halls aide?

Yeah, real tough guy stepping in with a 24-1 advantage.

Were there not enough verbs being properly conjugated on the Falcons boards that you felt the need to come hang out over here after a win?

FalconsFan · 11-09-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

Yeah, real tough guy stepping in with a 24-1 advantage.

Were there not enough verbs being properly conjugated on the Falcons boards that you felt the need to come hang out over here after a win?

...and you're defending Hall's actions why?

I like to debate with you all.. some of you are so delusional that you're sticking up for Hall.. that's always good for a laugh. At least some of you are bright enough to see Hall for what he is. (Love the Title of this thread)

Paintrain · 11-09-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FalconsFan

...and you're defending Hall's actions why?

I like to debate with you all.. some of you are so delusional that you're sticking up for Hall.. that's always good for a laugh. At least some of you are bright enough to see Hall for what he is. (Love the Title of this thread)

Not specifically defending his actions per say but simply saying that it wasn't as one sided as some fans with agendas try to paint it.

I was in Atlanta for Hall's first 2 years so the revisionist history and short memories of Falcons' fans is pretty funny to me.

11-09-2009, 11:56 AM	#2
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 62 Posts: 15,817	re: The D. Hall incident I like when AH comes running in the whole pile of At. players went backwards. The more I watch the clip the more I see the coaches grabbing Hall and hall is not grabbing them. I always thought that as a coach you pull back your players not grab one from the other team.

11-09-2009, 12:55 PM	#10
Rajmahal33 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 478	re: The D. Hall incident It is never ok for a coach to put his hand on a player (esp that of an opposing team), just like it is never ok for anyone to put their hands on a referee. Imagine if the situation was reversed and hall had pushed Smith or one of the members of the ATL coaching staff. You can bet your bottom dollar that Goodell would be handing out an unprecedented suspension to whoever that player may be, much less D. Hall. This issue has nothing to do with the player and coach in the scenario, the reputation of either party, or the circumstances surrounding the incident (unless someone genuinely felt that another person's long term health or life was at stake, neither of which was the case). This is a plain black and white issue, no gray area. It almost reminds me of the NBA's bench rule. No matter what the issue or profile of the player, if they leave the bench for any reason during a fight, it's an automatic 1-game suspension. I think football should institute a similar rule involving player-coach interactions. __________________ McNasty FTW!

11-09-2009, 12:17 PM	#11
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 47 Posts: 4,628	re: The D. Hall incident Doesn't matter who started it or not, and while I don't discredit Hall at all, the entire Atlanta bench shares blame in this as well. You see Hall being physically pulled into the melee by the ATL Coaching staff. Whether he's talking shit or not, whether he started it or not and whether he's a punk or not, that is totally unacceptable. The Falcons lost their cool period. Mike Smith's beef should have been with Landry, who got up after the hit and trotted back to the huddle. Instead, he lost his cool and took it out on the completely wrong person. __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

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