Landry is now a bust!

[redsk1]

LL didn't look very good in other systems, so the thread at the time was legit.

In this system, he's playing like one of the best safeties in the league. Matter of fact, he's 2nd in the NFL in tackles. Not the NFC, the NFL. You could always see the guy is talented, now he's playing like it.

[mredskins]

This from Peter King this morning:
Move over, Troy Polamalu.
It's good to be able to watch all the games in the NBC viewing room on Sundays, because it allows me to keep an eye on players around the league. And in the first five weeks of the season, no single defensive player in the league has jumped from relative anonymity to stardom like strong safety LaRon Landry of the Redskins. He leads the NFL in tackles (52) through five weeks, and Sunday, he was the most important Redskin defender in a 16-13 beat down of Aaron Rodgers and the Packers.
Talk about starting and finishing the job: In the first minute of the game, on the first Green Bay series of the day, he creamed tight end Donald Lee and forced a fumble that the Redskins recovered. In the 63rd minute, in overtime, Landry picked off a Rodgers pass intended for the forgotten Greg Jennings; five minutes later, a Graham Gano field goal won the game.
"He's fast, he's a hitter and loves to play,'' coach Mike Shanahan said after the game. "He's that way every snap -- obviously a great football player.''
Landry was a first-round pick by the Redskins in 2007, and the coach then, Joe Gibbs, wanted to pair him with Sean Taylor long-term to give Washington the most feared set of safeties in the league. But Taylor died that November, and when Gibbs retired after the season, the new regime moved Landry from strong safety to free.
"My rookie year, I felt I was in the right position to take advantage of how aggressive I like to play,'' Landry told me last night. "But when the staff changed, coach [Greg] Blache moved me, and nothing against him, I didn't feel it took advantage of what I did best. As a free safety, I'm kind of the savior back there, sitting back. That's not how I play best.''
But new coordinator Jim Haslett moved him to strong again, and Landry is comfortable in run-support and the occasional blitz. Against Green Bay, he led a disguising Washington scheme that seemed to frustrate Rodgers all afternoon.
"I think the best is yet to come for me,'' he said. And maybe for the Redskins too. They've beaten Philadelphia and Dallas already, and they're tied for first in the NFC East. Landry's nearly as big a reason for that as Donovan McNabb.

[MTK]

LL is our MVP so far in my book.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

LL is our MVP so far in my book.

Oh not according to Peter King:


MVP Watch
1. Peyton Manning, QB, Indianapolis. Look at the team he's playing with. It's semi-decimated. Colts are 3-2, and he's completing 70 percent, with 11-1 TD-Interception ratio.
2. Donovan McNabb, QB, Washington. The last time Washington saw a quarterback with McNabb's moxie and guts, Billy Kilmer was playing.
3. Tom Brady, QB, New England. Pats are averaging 33 points a game (obviously, with help from special-teams after last Monday's win), but Brady's importance will only rise now that Moss is gone.
4. Troy Polamalu, S, Pittsburgh. Long uphill climb for Roethlisberger to catch the big-haired one as the Steelers' most valuable.
5. Josh Freeman, QB, Tampa Bay. Forget the stats. Watch the Bucs. They're a gallant team, and Freeman makes more mistakes than he should. But he's the on-field keystone to an intriguing team that's not going away

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Oh not according to Peter King:


MVP Watch
1. Peyton Manning, QB, Indianapolis. Look at the team he's playing with. It's semi-decimated. Colts are 3-2, and he's completing 70 percent, with 11-1 TD-Interception ratio.
2. Donovan McNabb, QB, Washington. The last time Washington saw a quarterback with McNabb's moxie and guts, Billy Kilmer was playing.
3. Tom Brady, QB, New England. Pats are averaging 33 points a game (obviously, with help from special-teams after last Monday's win), but Brady's importance will only rise now that Moss is gone.
4. Troy Polamalu, S, Pittsburgh. Long uphill climb for Roethlisberger to catch the big-haired one as the Steelers' most valuable.
5. Josh Freeman, QB, Tampa Bay. Forget the stats. Watch the Bucs. They're a gallant team, and Freeman makes more mistakes than he should. But he's the on-field keystone to an intriguing team that's not going away

Yeah McNabb makes sense. I definitely don't think we're 3-2 without him.

Landry = our defensive MVP
McNabb = our offensive MVP

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

LL is our MVP so far in my book.

I think easily. Only one who warrants any mention is Rak.

[The Goat]

Hey there ya'll. I haven't been able to watch as much of our games as I'd like to be sure, but I've seen enough to know 1) my thread is obsolete and 2) Landry is easily the most improved player on the roster from last year.

One thing I think is interesting is we didn't hear the coaches talking Landry up a ton coming into the season. I wonder if this level of performance was expected?

...as to changing the thread title or shutting it down I'm good w/ either

[MTK]

You're a stand up man, Goat.

Haslett said from the start that Landry is the most talented player he's coached, and Landry himself was talking all offseason about how he was going to explode this year. I think the fans are the only ones surprised at his turnaround.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Haslett said from the start that Landry is the most talented player he's coached, and Landry himself was talking all offseason about how he was going to explode this year. I think the fans are the only ones surprised at his turnaround.

Reminds of G. Williams comment about Sean. Also reminds me Sean struggled for, what, two seasons before he showed us his elite talent?

No doubt Landry was held back by coaching and scheme, so it took him three seasons to get here. And as you pointed out he obviously grew into himself over the off-season.

...basically it turned into the perfect scenario for '10. I'm extremely glad the new regime kept Landry!!!

[Hog1]

[QUOTE=The Goat;746509]Reminds of G. Williams comment about Sean. Also reminds me Sean struggled for, what, two seasons before he showed us his elite talent?

No doubt Landry was held back by coaching and scheme, so it took him three seasons to get here. And as you pointed out he obviously grew into himself over the off-season.

...basically it turned into the perfect scenario for '10. I'm extremely glad the new regime kept Landry!!![/QUOTE]

I know it sounds.....silly, but I would have taken it hard if LL had not worked out....

[GTripp0012]

The Billy Kilmer comparisons are pretty fitting for McNabb, re: intangibles.

Not sure Kilmer was ever 2nd on anyone's MVP ballot though.

[rypper11]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The Billy Kilmer comparisons are pretty fitting for McNabb, re: intangibles.

Not sure Kilmer was ever 2nd on anyone's MVP ballot though.

No, but he sure did spend enough time 2nd on the depth chart.

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by The Goat

His play has disappointed me since the beginning of the '08 campaign but what I saw today was appalling. I went back a watched the reel several times keying in on Landry.

First off I noticed Turner's long run (12:15 to go in the first quarter) when Landry finally forced him out of bounce. Laron didn't even try to lay the wood. He barely bumped Turner and looked like a complete coward. I think what is even more cowardly was the hit on Ryan. The ONLY time Landry tries to lay the wood is when someone is scrambling out of bounce. This is as pathetic as it is cheap and I sincerely the hope the league fines Landry at least several weeks of pay.

Moving onto the first Turner TD Landry took the worst angle I've seen all season (not just by him but by any defensive player). Whatever skill/talent he had at one time appears to be in full regression. And finally the second Turner TD Landry had a clear shot before Turner breaks into the open but he simply dove to the turf to avoid contact.

Landry's cowardice is an embarrassment not only to the Redskins but, in the larger picture, to the game of football. He should be benched for his lousy play notwithstanding, but for the cowardice he has no business wearing a uniform. For the sake of the game I hope he is benched for the year and quickly traded/cut in the off-season. Personally I don't think I'll be able to watch another game as long as he's on the field

Is Crow a dish best served cold? Or is that something else??

But i cant really talk Hasslett keeps shutting me up and i hope he continues to do so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[T.O.Killa]

I just wanted to say, I never posted anything here about our superstar NFC player of the week.

[Hog1]

Old thread GW. Most of the recent posts have been recriminative, and of the crow eating variety.
AND if the SOB was any F...n good, he would have 4 ints in last weeks game as well!
BTW.....welcome to the WP