Landry is now a bust!

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by mredskins

This just in from Redskins Park:

Laron Landry was so upset after they arrived back at the park last night about the scuffle in Atlanta that he got in his Hummer and attempted to drive back to Atlanta to confront Head coach mike smith. He was pulled over in Pennsylvania this morning for speeding.

I guess Laron is staying true to himself he took the wrong angle to get to Atlanta and ended up in Pennsylvania trying to deliver a late hit

I hope you didn't spend much time thinking that one up.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by mredskins

This just in from Redskins Park:

Laron Landry was so upset after they arrived back at the park last night about the scuffle in Atlanta that he got in his Hummer and attempted to drive back to Atlanta to confront Head coach mike smith. He was pulled over in Pennsylvania this morning for speeding.

I guess Laron is staying true to himself he took the wrong angle to get to Atlanta and ended up in Pennsylvania trying to deliver a late hit

This just in:

Lame jokes suck.

Carry on now.

[mlmdub130]

landry is not a bust...yet, he needs one more year if he doesn't produce next year no matter if he is at fs or ss i will consider him a bust considering where we drafted him and who else was available, if we would have drafted him say 20th this conversation wouldn't be going on right now

[mlmdub130]

the difference between ss and fs is not night and day it's not de to lb or lb to cb, being drafted that high he shold be a good enough talent to play either

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

the difference between ss and fs is not night and day it's not de to lb or lb to cb, being drafted that high he shold be a good enough talent to play either

Exactly. Why are we parsing the differences between the positions. I would argue for where we drafted this bum, he should be able to play either position. At the end of the day Landry is a football player. Football players, especially ones getting paid as much as Landry is, should know how to tackle. That's not asking too much of first round pick who plays in the National Football League. It just isn't

There are some quarterbacks I've seen tackle better in the open field than this guy.

As an aside, boy does this team makes me cranky.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Exactly. Why are we parsing the differences between the positions. I would argue for where we drafted this bum, he should be able to play either position. At the end of the day Landry is a football player. Football players, especially ones getting paid as much as Landry is, should know how to tackle. That's not asking too much of first round pick who plays in the National Football League. It just isn't

There are some quarterbacks I've seen tackle better in the open field than this guy.

As an aside, boy does this team makes me cranky.

I would argue that ST was an exception to the rules and had the speed to cover sideline to sideline and the size and weight behind him to hit like a LB. Landry is the size of most safeties, but does not have the speed to keep up with some #1 WR's out there. Watching him try to take down RB or WR's is basically watching him throw his body in the general direction and hope he hits something or slows it down. His tackling actually reminds me of how Smoot plays the CB position. They might make the tackle half the time the other half the opponant either side steps the tackle or leaps over them.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

the difference between ss and fs is not night and day it's not de to lb or lb to cb, being drafted that high he shold be a good enough talent to play either

I would agree with you if we played alot of 2 deep safety defenses.
But, we don't we play mostly single deep FS with the SS in the box.(Cover 1 & Cover 3)
In these defenses the FS role is sideline to sideline.
That's why we play the FS so far back.

Originally Posted by SBXVII

.....but does not have the speed to keep up with some #1 WR's out there. Watching him try to take down RB or WR's is basically watching him throw his body in the general direction and hope he hits something or slows it down. His tackling actually reminds me of how Smoot plays the CB position. They might make the tackle half the time the other half the opponant either side steps the tackle or leaps over them.

Speed ain't the issue with LaRon (he's faster then most teams no.1 WR)and i don't have a problem with his coverage.
I agree 100% with your Smoot comparison when it comes to tackling.
Landry takes too many bad angles then lunges himself at the ball carrier making no real attempt to wrap them up, almost like a lame body check.

[MTK]

There's actually some big differences between the safety spots. To think there's not is a little naive.

I don't think it's that much of a stretch to say that playing out of position for Landry is hurting him and perhaps it's time to move him back and admit he's not cut out for FS.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

There's actually some big differences between the safety spots. To think there's not is a little naive.

I don't think it's that much of a stretch to say that playing out of position for Landry is hurting him and perhaps it's time to move him back and admit he's not cut out for FS.

there are differences but they are not huge all depends on the package

and like defensewins said this is his position he played it his whole college career

like i said he isn't a bust... yet give him one more year, he was 6th overall, being that high in the draft by your 4th year you need to put up or shut up

and side note if he crosses his arms after making a tackle that he should make, i would bench him, he misses way too many tackles, then he thinks he is the shit when he make a routine play, i don't think so

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

there are differences but they are not huge all depends on the package

and like defensewins said this is his position he played it his whole college career

like i said he isn't a bust... yet give him one more year, he was 6th overall, being that high in the draft by your 4th year you need to put up or shut up

and side note if he crosses his arms after making a tackle that he should make, i would bench him, he misses way too many tackles, then he thinks he is the shit when he make a routine play, i don't think so

I agree. He is our best safety by far. Who are you going to start in his place? Kareem Moore or Doughty? They were average in college.
The Redskins are the #1 defense in pass yardage allowed per game allowed 159.9 yards per game. Say what you want about his tackling and run support. In the pass game he is doing his job.
Mr. Landry is the leader of our secondary. His issues in the run game are easily correctable.
Safety can be a lot like Offensive lineman, in that if you do not hear his name they are playing well in the passing game. QB's throw away from good FS, so you might not hear their name in defending the pass. A tipped pass or an over thrown pass for a pick is when you usually hear the name of a good FS in the passing game. Right now the few good players we have are trying too hard because the are frustrated with our constant losing. Don't throw out the baby with the bath water. We have very few of the good young ones. He can come back from this.
Who on this squad is playing lights out right now?

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I agree. He is our best safety by far. Who are you going to start in his place? Kareem Moore or Doughty? They were average in college.
The Redskins are the #1 defense in pass yardage allowed per game allowed 159.9 yards per game. Say what you want about his tackling and run support. In the pass game he is doing his job.
Mr. Landry is the leader of our secondary. His issues in the run game are easily correctable.
Safety can be a lot like Offensive lineman, in that if you do not hear his name they are playing well in the passing game. QB's throw away from good FS, so you might not hear their name in defending the pass. A tipped pass or an over thrown pass for a pick is when you usually hear the name of a good FS in the passing game. Right now the few good players we have are trying too hard because the are frustrated with our constant losing. Don't throw out the baby with the bath water. We have very few of the good young ones. He can come back from this.
Who on this squad is playing lights out right now?

i'm not saying get rid of him by any means, for a top ten to be a bust doesn't mean he can't play and be a starter, it just means we could have used the pick a little better, but you could say that about more than one of our picks

[Dirtbag59]

I just want to say that Ithink that Landry is no where near as bad as this thread makes him out to be but at the same time he is nowhere near the top tier at his position. If I had to regrade the 2007 draft I'd say Landry should have been a second round pick.

[ethat001]

I agree with OP/The Goat. I saw those missed tackles and they weren't even close. The only time I usually remember his name for doing something in a game is for a missed tackle or a late hit.

I haven't given up on him yet, but the people who say he's still great are usually the ones who say that Campbell can still be our franchise QB. Both are possible - but after a couple of years -- hope is merely hope and you really want some action.

I hope he pans out.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by ethat001

I agree with OP/The Goat. I saw those missed tackles and they weren't even close. The only time I usually remember his name for doing something in a game is for a missed tackle or a late hit.

I haven't given up on him yet, but the people who say he's still great are usually the ones who say that Campbell can still be our franchise QB. Both are possible - but after a couple of years -- hope is merely hope and you really want some action.

I hope he pans out.

CAMPBELL R IZ DA fRAnchize QD 4 GRATE JUST1Ce. 17 runs batted in purr game

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

CAMPBELL R IZ DA fRAnchize QD 4 GRATE JUST1Ce. 17 runs batted in purr game

come again?