Landry is now a bust!

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I love how people want to dismantle the one part of our team that we excel at.

With Tryon's INT, we now have 7 of them forced in 11 games, which is tied for 27th in the league.

Hall accounts for more than half of those, but I guess we still have difference definitions of excellence.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

With Tryon's INT, we now have 7 of them forced in 11 games, which is tied for 27th in the league.

Hall accounts for more than half of those, but I guess we still have difference definitions of excellence.

We're 27th!

I thought that the argument was that Phat Al, Orakpo, etc., would force QB errors and our long-term problem with getting interceptions would be fixed?

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Lotus

We're 27th!

I thought that the argument was that Phat Al, Orakpo, etc., would force QB errors and our long-term problem with getting interceptions would be fixed?

we should have atleast half a dozen more if anyone besides hall could catch a freakin ball, tip drills anyone?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Lotus

We're 27th!

I thought that the argument was that Phat Al, Orakpo, etc., would force QB errors and our long-term problem with getting interceptions would be fixed?

We have had opportunities. Mostly, we've forced a lot more fumbles than we've recovered. But we've forced some bad passes with the pass rush, and have either dropped it (linebackers, looking at you), or just haven't been in position to make a play.

We're still trying to figure out this zone coverage thing. It seems like such a foreign concept to some of the defensive players, but we simply don't have the personnel to play man anymore.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

With Tryon's INT, we now have 7 of them forced in 11 games, which is tied for 27th in the league.

Hall accounts for more than half of those, but I guess we still have difference definitions of excellence.

My bad, I guess being ranked the number one pass defense in football is meaningless.

To each his own.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

My bad, I guess being ranked the number one pass defense in football is meaningless.

To each his own.

stats are what they are... stats
records show what a team is

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

My bad, I guess being ranked the number one pass defense in football is meaningless.

It's not meaningless, just very, very close to it.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by dmek25

regardless of his cover abilities, he MAKES PLAYS. isn't this what the league is all about?

Maybe I am wrong but I don't recall seeing Hall get toasted like Smoot and Rogers have repeatedly recently. Usually Hall is in the picture when his guy catches it and if Hall is in the picture there is always a chance he comes down with it.

[johno]

even if landry's contributions "are not easily viewed on tv", he still needs to tackle. thats all i ask, tackle people when you get close to them. thats it. he is playing like garbage and needs to wake up.

[MTK]

To his credit he did have a nice pass defense and he did a great job on that goal line play.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

To his credit he did have a nice pass defense and he did a great job on that goal line play.

that was his best play this year imo, he was like a solid brick wall, i would like to see him close up gaps like that more often

best part of that play... no smug ass grin and arms crossed shaking his head afterwards

[SmootSmack]

I'm still not sold on Kareem Moore either (while we're talking safeties). He looks out of place on the field.

[SmootSmack]

"unfairly critical" is such a subjective term

Personally, I'm glad we have someone in our secondary that gets turnovers

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

"unfairly critical" is such a subjective term

Zing.

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Personally, I'm glad we have someone in our secondary that gets turnovers

As am I. Is it really all that hard to find someone who will do this though? I mean, we're paying Hall close to $8 million/year. If we decided to make our 4th round pick next year someone who could pair with Barnes and Tryon who had great ball skills and simple adequacy in coverage, someone on par with, say: Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, could that not be done? I think that kind of player is freely available.

I've come to realize I was wrong about Asante Samuel in the offseason, a lot of his interceptions are of the Ed Reed style--he makes plays when plays aren't necessarily there to be made, and I underestimated his coverage numbers. Hall, though, is exactly who he's been his entire career. I don't think he needs to be ripped for being that player, but he's not aggressive and doesn't ever challenge receivers. It's in no way unfair to make that observation.

[The Goat]

Laron Landry should be locked in a room for 3 to 6 months to watch film of Darren Sharper...and then he should be forced to restructure his contract and work for a whole lot less...and then he must be forever banned from doing anything whatsoever after a play.

...seriously, Sharper has been resurrected in New Orleans and it's a blast to watch.