Portis is a BIG problem!!!

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

And he also has, what, six sacks this year. And he constantly get's pressure on the QB. Yeah, I'm sticking with BO. Umm..Clinton Portis is hardly a pro bowl running back anymore. I bet if Portis got cut today, only a handful of teams would try to pick him up as evidence of that.

I think you could make an argument for Fletch, but I think Orakpo is having more of an impact season, where as Fletch is more consistent and steady at what he does.

5.5 sacks on the year with 2 of them coming against atlanta

im not going to discount what orakpo has done but 5.5 sacks isnt that impressive around the league.......there are 10 players around the league with more sacks and 3 tied with 5.5

clinton portis is currently 14th in rushing in the league and considering he got injured against the falcons and didnt get to increase his total, id say he is doing a fine job

portis was a pro bowler last season......he was an all pro last season......he has only lost a step IMO because the franchise itself has lost a step

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

5.5 sacks on the year with 2 of them coming against atlanta

im not going to discount what orakpo has done but 5.5 sacks isnt that impressive around the league.......there are 10 players around the league with more sacks and 3 tied with 5.5

clinton portis is currently 14th in rushing in the league and considering he got injured against the falcons and didnt get to increase his total, id say he is doing a fine job

portis was a pro bowler last season......he was an all pro last season......he has only lost a step IMO because the franchise itself has lost a step

Look, I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. Are you thinking about putting Portis on your fantasy team or something? Clinton could break out next week for a buck fifty and I'd feel the same. It's just plain old wear and tear. He's knees are wearing out, his ankles are bothering him, and as a consequence he's lost a step or two. He ain't what he used to be and he's not by a long shot the best Redskin. Period. But that's just my opinion.

Even if ends up with a thousand yards this year, so what?

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Look, I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. Are you thinking about putting Portis on your fantasy team or something? Clinton could break out next week for a buck fifty and I'd feel the same. It's just plain old wear and tear. He's knees are wearing out, his ankles are bothering him, and as a consequence he's lost a step or two. He ain't what he used to be and he's not by a long shot the best Redskin. Period. But that's just my opinion.

Even if ends up with a thousand yards this year, so what?

im not trying to get at anything other than saying you guys are jumping the guns on arguably your best player

if portis gets over 1000 yards it proves he hasnt lost his ability to run the ball....it proves that even tho you're not a fan, that the hate on him is pretty much unjustified.......there are backs all around the league that would kill for a 1000 yard season

portis has rushed for over 1000 yards in 6 of his 7.5 seasons....im not sure why you dont think hes lost a step when last season he was only 13 yards short of having his 4th 1500 yard season in 7 seasons last year

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

im not trying to get at anything other than saying you guys are jumping the guns on arguably your best player

if portis gets over 1000 yards it proves he hasnt lost his ability to run the ball....it proves that even tho you're not a fan, that the hate on him is pretty much unjustified.......there are backs all around the league that would kill for a 1000 yard season

portis has rushed for over 1000 yards in 6 of his 7.5 seasons....im not sure why you dont think hes lost a step when last season he was only 13 yards short of having his 4th 1500 yard season in 7 seasons last year

Jumping the gun? Hating on Portis? Dude, what are you talking about? We've been watching Portis for five years+. It's not like we woke up last week and said Portis is done. It is what it is. The stats you point out is precisely the reason he's not as good as he used to be. Running backs, generally speaking, have a five year shelf life. And the more you pound them, the more you cut into their effectiveness later down the road.

A 1,000 yard season is hardly the metric for good backs anymore. It's probably closer to 1,300-1,400 with another couple of hundreds yards in receiving to go with it. Those are the numbers of marquee running back in the NFL. Nowadays you can throw any old Joe out there and gain 1,000 yards. It means nothing.

I don't think either team playing in last year's Super Bowl had a thousand yard rusher. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

5.5 sacks on the year with 2 of them coming against atlanta

im not going to discount what orakpo has done but 5.5 sacks isnt that impressive around the league.......there are 10 players around the league with more sacks and 3 tied with 5.5

clinton portis is currently 14th in rushing in the league and considering he got injured against the falcons and didnt get to increase his total, id say he is doing a fine job

portis was a pro bowler last season......he was an all pro last season......he has only lost a step IMO because the franchise itself has lost a step

I would call leading all rookies in sacks impressive.

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I would call leading all rookies in sacks impressive.

sure.....defensive rookie of the year? probably not because he only has 26 tackles on the season

he has shawn merrimanitis.......good pass rusher, not good at much else....at least statistically thats what he looks like

brian cushing has 78 tackles for houston

actually......london fletcher has 75 tackles including a sack

andre carter has 1 sack more than orakpo and 10 more tackles