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[T.O.Killa]

Just so every one knows. Pittsburg does not pick Olinemen in the early rounds. They never pick an offensive lineman, before the third round.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Just so every one knows. Pittsburg does not pick Olinemen in the early rounds. They never pick an offensive lineman, before the third round.

They do something with their linemen that we do not: COACH THEM.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by Lotus

They do something with their linemen that we do not: COACH THEM.

I don't like Joe Bugel disses.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

I don't like Joe Bugel disses.

Look, I've admired Buges for decades. But the fact is that our line in recent years has revealed both a lack of talent and a lack of coaching.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by Lotus

They do something with their linemen that we do not: COACH THEM.

the greatest coach in the world wouldn't make a difference with these stiffs. you need talent first. then a good coach can make a difference

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Lotus

They do something with their linemen that we do not: COACH THEM.

Good call. And their entire team for that matter. They could take most of our players and turn them into serious ballers. They absorb players into their system and get max production. Kind of how the Skins did in the 80s. When players left the Skins, they were never the same.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Just so every one knows. Pittsburg does not pick Olinemen in the early rounds. They never pick an offensive lineman, before the third round.

Yeah, that was the one thing that jumped out at me last night when they were showing the Steelers last 10 or so first round picks: no O-linemen. I was worried that Vinny was watching the game going "See, see! I knew I didn't need to draft linemen!"

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Yeah, that was the one thing that jumped out at me last night when they were showing the Steelers last 10 or so first round picks: no O-linemen. I was worried that Vinny was watching the game going "See, see! I knew I didn't need to draft linemen!"

I thought Pittsburgh didn't have a good offensive line?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I thought Pittsburgh didn't have a good offensive line?

they dont

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I thought Pittsburgh didn't have a good offensive line?

They really dont but because they don't have BUM ASS JC, they actually can make plays downfield and put up pts.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Yeah, that was the one thing that jumped out at me last night when they were showing the Steelers last 10 or so first round picks: no O-linemen. I was worried that Vinny was watching the game going "See, see! I knew I didn't need to draft linemen!"

Yeah , but Vinny never picks Oline altogether. They pick one to three every draft. There line is constnatly getting better, they are young and are very good run blockers.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Yeah , but Vinny never picks Oline altogether. They pick one to three every draft. There line is constnatly getting better, they are young and are very good run blockers.

Steeler Guards Chris Kemoeatu and Trial Essex had a monster game. Along with big run blocking TE's Heath Miller and Matt Spaeth, they were putting on a run clinic 10 yards at a time last night. On a couple of those cool counter plays, they looked like the Redskins of old, but with a new wrinkle. A guard pulling followed by a big TE, instead of the redskins counter trey of a G and T.
RT Willie Colon and LT Max Starks also looked strong.
With big and young RB Rashard Mendenhall running hard.
I laughed hard when old WR Hines Ward hurdled Champ Bailey's tackle attempt and scored a TD. Champ was humiliated.
Steelers are peaking and looking like the strongest team at the moment.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Just so every one knows. Pittsburg does not pick Olinemen in the early rounds. They never pick an offensive lineman, before the third round.

Excellent point. But can we be trusted to pick O-linemen later than round 2? Our track record is abysmal on that count, with Rinehart looking like the latest bust. Looking deeper, I compared the Skins Draft record to the Steelers:

Washington Redskins All-Time Draft Listing | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Pittsburgh Steelers All-Time Draft Listing | Pro-Football-Reference.com

What jumps out at me is how many more picks Pittsburgh has made looking over the last 10-12 years. During that stretch, there have been 4 drafts where the Skins have had 5 picks or fewer. Pittsburgh has 7 to 9 picks almost every year of that stretch with the exception of 2003 (when they hit big on Polamalu). They've had many misses during that stretch, but they've had enough hits from their numerous picks that they have the quality depth that we are sorely lacking.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Excellent point. But can we be trusted to pick O-linemen later than round 2? Our track record is abysmal on that count, with Rinehart looking like the latest bust. Looking deeper, I compared the Skins Draft record to the Steelers:

Washington Redskins All-Time Draft Listing | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Pittsburgh Steelers All-Time Draft Listing | Pro-Football-Reference.com

What jumps out at me is how many more picks Pittsburgh has made looking over the last 10-12 years. During that stretch, there have been 4 drafts where the Skins have had 5 picks or fewer. Pittsburgh has 7 to 9 picks almost every year of that stretch with the exception of 2003 (when they hit big on Polamalu). They've had many misses during that stretch, but they've had enough hits from their numerous picks that they have the quality depth that we are sorely lacking.

Excellent point.

I would add to this discussion that by all accounts the Giants have a fine offensive line. But they don't start a bunch of first rounders. Their starters are low picks and undrafted FA's. The difference is that they coach these folks to play better.

So I think that the woes on the Skins o-line derive from poor strategies for talent acquisition combined with poor coaching.

[BrunellMVP?]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Just so every one knows. Pittsburg does not pick Olinemen in the early rounds. They never pick an offensive lineman, before the third round.

but they do pick them, right?