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Old 11-11-2009, 08:25 PM   #1
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Re: Updated: Evaluating the QB Situation (Discuss Campbell, Colt, etc)

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I agree with this, however I would prefer for us to draft a LT in 1st round and then draft a QB in 2nd round (although my ideal is to draft offense linemen in first three drafts, 1st, 2nd, and 4th) but it is a fact that we need a QB.. I have always believed in Campbell, but just like some, my patience is wearing out thin now.. To be in win-win situation, we need to resign Campbell to maybe 1 or 2 years, and find a QB to compete for #1 spot..
2nd Round QB's have a horrible track record this past decade. If you want a QB in this league you either pick someone in the first or you hope like hell a late round guy pans out. The only 2nd round QB's that are succeeding in the league right now are Brett Farve (selected in 1992) and Drew Brees (Selected 32nd overall which today would be a 1st round pick).

Most of the time you see guys like Drew Stanton, Marques Tuiasosopo, Kevin Kolb, Kellen Clemons, Tarvaris Jackson, and Brian Brohm. Chad Henne might pan out but 2nd round QB's are even harder to turn into starters. Quincy Carter was also decent but Dallas couldn't wait to get rid of him after he failed a drug test and he never caught on again.

Anyway people can say what they want about first round QB's by they pan out a lot more frequently then their second round counterparts.
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Old 11-11-2009, 08:31 PM   #2
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Re: Updated: Evaluating the QB Situation (Discuss Campbell, Colt, etc)

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2nd Round QB's have a horrible track record this past decade. If you want a QB in this league you either pick someone in the first or you hope like hell a late round guy pans out. The only 2nd round QB's that are succeeding in the league right now are Brett Farve (selected in 1992) and Drew Brees (Selected 32nd overall which today would be a 1st round pick).

Most of the time you see guys like Drew Stanton, Kevin Kolb, Kellen Clemons, Tarvaris Jackson, and Brian Brohm. Chad Henne might pan out but 2nd round QB's are even harder to turn into starters. Quincy Carter was also decent but Dallas couldn't wait to get rid of him after he failed a drug test and he never caught on again.
Ah I see, I wasn't aware of this track.. Well, I'm still sticking with drafting a LT in 1st round idea.. So I guess if I'm GM, I would resign Campbell and sign a best available free agent QB and let them compete.. I just don't see how can we not target a LT in 1st round, especially with our Ts situation.. We basically don't have a young healthy T that would step in if Samuels either retires or comes back then get hurt again.. And not to mention the fact that we don't have a clear cut RT neither..
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2nd Round QB's have a horrible track record this past decade. If you want a QB in this league you either pick someone in the first or you hope like hell a late round guy pans out. The only 2nd round QB's that are succeeding in the league right now are Brett Farve (selected in 1992) and Drew Brees (Selected 32nd overall which today would be a 1st round pick).

Most of the time you see guys like Drew Stanton, Marques Tuiasosopo, Kevin Kolb, Kellen Clemons, Tarvaris Jackson, and Brian Brohm. Chad Henne might pan out but 2nd round QB's are even harder to turn into starters. Quincy Carter was also decent but Dallas couldn't wait to get rid of him after he failed a drug test and he never caught on again.

Anyway people can say what they want about first round QB's by they pan out a lot more frequently then their second round counterparts.
while i agree for the most part qb's are deep this year in the draft and you could probably pick one up in the 2nd round this year, and kolb was pretty money the games he played this year, i wouldn't be surprised if he starts some where next year or goes some where where he has a chance to compete for the starting job
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while i agree for the most part qb's are deep this year in the draft and you could probably pick one up in the 2nd round this year, and kolb was pretty money the games he played this year, i wouldn't be surprised if he starts some where next year or goes some where where he has a chance to compete for the starting job
2nd Round QBs in the past 5 years:
2009 - Pat White
2008 - Chad Henne, Brian Brohm
2007 - Kevin Kolb, Drew Stanton
2006 - Kellen Clemens, Tavaris Jackson
2005 - None Taken
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2nd Round QBs in the past 5 years:
2009 - Pat White
2008 - Chad Henne, Brian Brohm
2007 - Kevin Kolb, Drew Stanton
2006 - Kellen Clemens, Tavaris Jackson
2005 - None Taken
i still think this is one of the deepest group of qb's coming out in the past 5 years, there are probably 4 to 5 first rounders
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i still think this is one of the deepest group of qb's coming out in the past 5 years, there are probably 4 to 5 first rounders
Huh? There are probably 4 to 5 first rounders that were drafted in the 2nd round and have done nothing of note? Please elaborate.
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Huh? There are probably 4 to 5 first rounders that were drafted in the 2nd round and have done nothing of note? Please elaborate.
Think he was talking about the upcoming draft.
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Think he was talking about the upcoming draft.
yeah i am, they are saying mccoy could fall to mid second round right now, this will be a very stocked year as far as college qb prospects
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