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Old 11-11-2009, 10:58 PM   #1
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Re: who stays? who goes?

Roster Moves if I were GM!...and I trusted my scouting department.

QB- Brennan and Collins will compete to determine who stays. Either way I would look to draft a franchise signal caller (if, after a full draft process evaluation, one warrants that pick).

HB- Trade CP for any pick we could get (probably 3rd or 4th). Cut Betts & Cartwright. Pick up either Jerious Norwood or Lendale White in FA (if they become available and are cost effective, no big deals) or draft a RB in the mid rounds.

WR- Keep Moss, Thomas, Kelly & Mitchell. If no takers in trade for ARE, cut him. Get add'l depth player in FA.

TE- Stand pat with Cooley, Davis & Yoder (unless younger blocking TE is available in FA or later rounds).

OL- Starters= Dock & Rabach (don't like him, but may be hard to replace him this year short of a miracle or Edwin Willams progressing). Draft LT in early first (if not high on a particular QB) or late first (trading back in) or early second. Keep Levi depending on his performance this year. Montgomery & Williams for depth NOT STARTERS. Target RT with 3rd round pick (from Portis deal if applicable) or 4th round. Get RG in FA cause Rhinehart looks like a bust. FA's for depth. BTW- heyer sux.

DL- I'm pleased with the roster here but may move Griffin out and put Golston/Alexander in to fill. Drop Montgomery. FA or late round for depth. Jarmon to replace retiring Daniels.

LB- Keep McIntosh at the Will, Orakpo at the Sam, If replacement for London at Mike becomes available then replace him (not the highest priority).

S- No complaints here. Although if a true FS becomes available get him and move Landry back to SS.

CB- If uncapped year, trade Rogers for value. If capped year, franchise him and trade for value (1st or 2nd round either way...yes, some team will pay). Keep Hall, Tryon & Barnes. Drop Smoot and Westbrook. Fill starting spot opposite Hall via FA.

Coaching Staff- Fire everyone! Allow new coach to pick his staff although I would see if he would want to retain Jerry Gray to run the defense. I lean toward Russ Grimm (look at his work with the Steelers and recently with the Cards) or another up and coming Coordinator/Assistant Head Coach. Re-tread SB coaches would not be ideal as this normally does not work.

*I actually belive that with shrewd moves, proper scouting and a changing of the guard in terms of our core players....we are a couple years away from being a perenniel playoff team.
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Old 11-11-2009, 11:03 PM   #2
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I've thought about starting a similar thread but in the current state of our team I find it beyond difficult to be "objective" with something like this. Oh well since you brought it up I'll play along...seems easiest to me just to try and pick keepers you'd like to see start at first. Maybe I'll think about depth a little down the road

Offense:

*Brennan
*Betts
*Dock
*Cooley
*Davis
*Devin Thomas
*Kelly
*JC*

If we really did a full sweep and cut CP, Moss, ARL, Sellers and the entire oline apart from Dock and maybe Jones depending on how he performs, then I'm for giving Jason one more chance to lead. I really, really like the kid and would give him another chance to become the team leader, suspecting w/ the likes of Portis, Moss and now Sellers and their various, um, attitude issues maybe Jason had no chance of getting everyone to line up behind him. Definitely w/ Moss I get the feeling he's 100% for himself out there...

Defense:

*Jarmon
*Alexander
*Phat Al
*Orakpo
*Rocky Mac
*Los
*Hall
*Doughty
*Horton

Really hard to let Fletcher go but we need youth there and a monster MLB for the future. I'm really on the fence about keeping Hall but letting Moore go. I think w/ better coaching and pre-season team activities Hall could become a better tackler and all-around better corner. The same could be said for Moore at safety but I just haven't seen enough of him to tell...I wish Zorn/Blache would bench Landry for the season and give Moore the start to see where he's at.
i really agree with you here goat about campbell. But at the same time, i do not think we should be hesitant to bring in other qbs
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Old 11-11-2009, 11:42 PM   #3
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I say the next GM and head coach should let guys go that will not help the team. It's that simple. Are some of those guys trash, or is it bad coaching? IMO, without a long range plan with a good GM then, there's not point in speculating.

I'd blow up the offense and try and keep the D the same. ST would also get a lot of my attention.
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Roster Moves if I were GM!...and I trusted my scouting department.

QB- Brennan and Collins will compete to determine who stays. Either way I would look to draft a franchise signal caller (if, after a full draft process evaluation, one warrants that pick).

HB- Trade CP for any pick we could get (probably 3rd or 4th). Cut Betts & Cartwright. Pick up either Jerious Norwood or Lendale White in FA (if they become available and are cost effective, no big deals) or draft a RB in the mid rounds.

WR- Keep Moss, Thomas, Kelly & Mitchell. If no takers in trade for ARE, cut him. Get add'l depth player in FA.

TE- Stand pat with Cooley, Davis & Yoder (unless younger blocking TE is available in FA or later rounds).

OL- Starters= Dock & Rabach (don't like him, but may be hard to replace him this year short of a miracle or Edwin Willams progressing). Draft LT in early first (if not high on a particular QB) or late first (trading back in) or early second. Keep Levi depending on his performance this year. Montgomery & Williams for depth NOT STARTERS. Target RT with 3rd round pick (from Portis deal if applicable) or 4th round. Get RG in FA cause Rhinehart looks like a bust. FA's for depth. BTW- heyer sux.

DL- I'm pleased with the roster here but may move Griffin out and put Golston/Alexander in to fill. Drop Montgomery. FA or late round for depth. Jarmon to replace retiring Daniels.

LB- Keep McIntosh at the Will, Orakpo at the Sam, If replacement for London at Mike becomes available then replace him (not the highest priority).

S- No complaints here. Although if a true FS becomes available get him and move Landry back to SS.

CB- If uncapped year, trade Rogers for value. If capped year, franchise him and trade for value (1st or 2nd round either way...yes, some team will pay). Keep Hall, Tryon & Barnes. Drop Smoot and Westbrook. Fill starting spot opposite Hall via FA.

Coaching Staff- Fire everyone! Allow new coach to pick his staff although I would see if he would want to retain Jerry Gray to run the defense. I lean toward Russ Grimm (look at his work with the Steelers and recently with the Cards) or another up and coming Coordinator/Assistant Head Coach. Re-tread SB coaches would not be ideal as this normally does not work.

*I actually belive that with shrewd moves, proper scouting and a changing of the guard in terms of our core players....we are a couple years away from being a perenniel playoff team.

Why would you wanna keep Orakpo at LB? It's so obvious that is a mistake it isn't even funny anymore. If we do nothing else move Orakpo back to full-time defensive end. He could be a Freeney esque player.
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Why would you wanna keep Orakpo at LB? It's so obvious that is a mistake it isn't even funny anymore. If we do nothing else move Orakpo back to full-time defensive end. He could be a Freeney esque player.
Freeney plays in the pass happy AFC South (excluding the Titans). Keeping Orakpo at Sam (in a 4-3...although a 3-4 may look good too with our personnel) prevents the hard nosed foes in the NFC East from running at him all game and wearing him down (a la Jason Taylor last year). Orakpo is improving every week and has 5.5 sacks on the season as a hybrid.
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