RI: Rogers doesn't know how long benching will last..

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by saden1

"I ain't even going to think about no future here."

You're not that good fool....don't let the door hit you on your way out. If you can take Hall with you that would be awesome.

I dissagree with you about Hall for all the mistakes Hall has made he is still tied for 4rth in the league in interceptions. He does what we paid him to do which is make plays when we need him too. He doesn't make great tackles, but neither did Deion in his prime.

[calia]

Originally Posted by saden1

"I ain't even going to think about no future here."

You're not that good fool....don't let the door hit you on your way out. If you can take Hall with you that would be awesome.

I don't disagree with your conclusion, but if one takes what he said literally, considering that it has a double negative, the actual words mean he does expect a future here. (Now, I am sure that isn't at all what he meant, and, let's face it, he's not splitting atoms in his spare time. But it is what he said.)

[wilsowilso]

I have one problem with Carlos.

If you were to ask him right now if he has a problem catching the damn ball he seems like he would say "No".

He has the worst hands for a skill player I have ever seen in all my years of watching football.

[MonkFan4Life]

Let him and his "I would've been a Pro Bowler if..." attitude go somewhere else. He can cover unless he get's hit with a double move. If he could catch then he would've gotten a deal before Hall got here but he can't that's why him and the other bum from Auburn will be gone. They have a bunch of if's and hopefully next years going for them.

[skinsfan_nn]

Rogers is a weak link with cinder blocks for hands, I don't think he could catch a cold. He is a liability that is useless and clueless. Yes, he certainly has that Auburn size brain.

They have found a nice place to park his ass until seasons end. Oh, just on the bench not paying attention.

[hooskins]

His grammar sucks, cut him

[djnemo65]

I don't know how you leave a guy with pretty average open field cover skills on an island against one of the top 5 WR's in the league and then act surprised when he gets smoked. But if this performance and his subsequent whiny tirade put the nail in the coffin of his Redskins tenure I think that's a good thing. Someone is going offer him Nate Clements money, or at least Dangelo Hall money, and I'm glad it won't be us.

[dmek25]

gtripp, let me ask you something. i value your posts. very informative, and insightful. but whats up with the personal vendetta against Hall? here's my take on him. not very good in man coverage. but... he MAKES PLAYS. that's the name of the game in the NFL. you put enough play makers on both sides of the ball, and ill give you a super bowl contender. sometimes your hatred towards him clouds your credibility

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by dmek25

gtripp, let me ask you something. i value your posts. very informative, and insightful. but whats up with the personal vendetta against Hall? here's my take on him. not very good in man coverage. but... he MAKES PLAYS. that's the name of the game in the NFL. you put enough play makers on both sides of the ball, and ill give you a super bowl contender. sometimes your hatred towards him clouds your credibility

He doesn't ever really make a play though, as much as plays seem to come to him. When he's up against a bad opponent, Hall's technique of severe trail coverage means he's in position to take really ill-advised throws by the quarterback and turn them into big defensive plays. That's something.

Problem with that is that it inherently relies on mistakes by the opponent to become big plays by the defense. If you're going to be a winning team, you shouldn't be in close games against teams that employ Josh Johnson, and Jake Delhomme (and Chris Simms). The fact that the Redskins were is in no way Hall's fault, but any quarterback worth his salt just takes advantage of Hall's complete lack of route recognition ability.

Look at the opponents on his interceptions (26 career).

His aggragate numbers are mediocre, but he has astounding splits between great passing offenses and weak ones. That just suggests that he'll make the plays that come to him, but he's not a playmaker. And that's not worth tens of millions of dollars.

[dmek25]

i don't believe he is worth that kind of money. but on a team that struggles to create turn overs, you take them any way you can. and Rogers cant even make the ones he is handed. and with McNabb, Hassleback, Brees, and both Manning's on your list, im not sure of your point

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i don't believe he is worth that kind of money. but on a team that struggles to create turn overs, you take them any way you can. and Rogers cant even make the ones he is handed. and with McNabb, Hassleback, Brees, and both Manning's on your list, im not sure of your point

One way I think we could create more turnovers is using our top three or five pass rushing unit to force fumbles, but that requires an agressive man-lock, or mixed-zone scheme to take away options for the quarterback.

The interceptions Hall gets certainly help our defense, I'd say a lot more than most people realize since those aren't factored into our defensive rank, but it's not like he's a rare bird or anything. The Redskins don't have very many players that do what Hall does, but most every other team does. These players aren't really in demand either, because coaches can't do anything schematically with them, except to put them in the game and hope quarterbacks make some bad decisions out there. Coaches like to think in terms of match-ups, and you can't really scheme anything with Hall, as he does one thing very well: turn and run.

So while Hall offers something we sorely need, you're right, the bottom line is that we're paying a lot of money for a guy who doesn't have any total value from a football operations perspective. His role absolutely needs to be filled though, as you can't have a secondary full of Fred Smoots.

By comparison, I'd say Springs was more of a play-creator than Hall ever has been, but Hall's here because he can stay healthy and Springs can't.

[Monkeydad]

I agree that Rogers should be traded for whatever picks we can get, to build up the O-line.

He has saved opposing teams from literally dozens of interceptions because of his inability to catch the ball. He has single-handedly kept us near the bottom of the league in defensive turnovers every year. We have one of the top defenses in the NFL every season, yet always finish near the bottom in turnovers. Carlos is the reason.

If we can't trade him and have to keep him, give him a low base-salary contract with incentives for INTs...make him earn his money.

[freddyg12]

This is really disappointing, I think Rogers is a solid CB for the most part. He just seems prone to mental lapses. It happened this time last year too, when he got benched for Hall. He's our best man cover cb, but if he continues to bite on the double moves, he might as well stay on the bench. Maybe it comes down to Hall just not being very smart, not preparing well & on top of that seeming to carry a chip on his shoulder.

I expect to see a lot of cover 2 this week. If dallas & garret are smart they'll look to pound the ball on us & make our secondary tackle. If we can stop the run in cover 2 we can win sunday.

[Monkeydad]

"I ain't even gonna think about no future here."

Double negative, so he's saying that he IS thinking about the future here?

He AIN'T thinking about NO FUTURE, so he is?

[Eknox]

he's a bum, when we picked him with the 9th pick I wanted to cry, we need to stay away from Auburn players (see JC) ...lol