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Old 11-16-2009, 04:14 PM   #1
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If the Front Office structure stayed relatively the same, then a potential sleeper candidate is Ron Meeks. Snyder supposedly really liked him last off-season.
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Old 11-16-2009, 04:20 PM   #2
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If the Front Office structure stayed relatively the same, then a potential sleeper candidate is Ron Meeks. Snyder supposedly really liked him last off-season.
Interesting! Haven't thought about Ron Meeks.
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Old 11-16-2009, 04:34 PM   #3
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If the Front Office structure stayed relatively the same, then a potential sleeper candidate is Ron Meeks. Snyder supposedly really liked him last off-season.
If the front office structure remains the same, i can tell you i won't be giving a crap anymore - i'll be rooting for another team. everyone has a limit and mine is about reached. you have to draw the line somewhere and i've made my decision.
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:59 PM   #4
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If the front office structure remains the same, i can tell you i won't be giving a crap anymore - i'll be rooting for another team. everyone has a limit and mine is about reached. you have to draw the line somewhere and i've made my decision.
Funny, I'm not at the point where I would totally say I won't call the Skins my team but I definitly get jealous when I change the Colts play decent ball all evening and then I see them throw an interception with 7min. left in the game down by 17 points needing 2 TD's and a field goal, I change the channel knowing they won't get the ball enough times in 7 min. and later see that they won 35-34. Points on the board, clock management, 2min drills, ......it does make me wonder what it would be like having a team like that.
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Old 11-17-2009, 04:27 PM   #5
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Funny, I'm not at the point where I would totally say I won't call the Skins my team but I definitly get jealous when I change the Colts play decent ball all evening and then I see them throw an interception with 7min. left in the game down by 17 points needing 2 TD's and a field goal, I change the channel knowing they won't get the ball enough times in 7 min. and later see that they won 35-34. Points on the board, clock management, 2min drills, ......it does make me wonder what it would be like having a team like that.
I don't think the team itself is anything special. They just have Peyton Manning. Without Manning, the team would be mediocre at best. Peyton makes everyone around him better. Their player acquisition (free agency and the draft) is merely average. Guys who become "stars" in Indy would be fighting for roster spots on many other teams. Offensive players who leave Indy rarely have similar levels of success elsewhere. The team's success is 100% Manning. When he goes, they'll be perennial 6-10 to 10-6 team.

That said, like you, i absolutely love watching Manning play. I'm personnaly rooting for a Colts-Vikings superbowl... although a part of me wants Dallas to make it to the big game... if only because it would be a total fluke and force Jerry to keep that shmuck of a head coach around a while longer. Potential high caliber HC candidates are dwindling, and, the way i see it, its goiing to come down to Dallas and the Skins bidding against eachother for Shanahan. Now, personnally, i'm not that big of a fan of the guy, but he's the best out there that we have a chance to get, and it would allow us to keep some continuity in offensive philosophy. If Jerrys "forced" to keep Phillips, then we're almost assured to land Shanahan.
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Old 11-17-2009, 05:17 PM   #6
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I don't think the team itself is anything special. They just have Peyton Manning. Without Manning, the team would be mediocre at best. Peyton makes everyone around him better. Their player acquisition (free agency and the draft) is merely average. Guys who become "stars" in Indy would be fighting for roster spots on many other teams. Offensive players who leave Indy rarely have similar levels of success elsewhere. The team's success is 100% Manning. When he goes, they'll be perennial 6-10 to 10-6 team.

That said, like you, i absolutely love watching Manning play. I'm personnaly rooting for a Colts-Vikings superbowl... although a part of me wants Dallas to make it to the big game... if only because it would be a total fluke and force Jerry to keep that shmuck of a head coach around a while longer. Potential high caliber HC candidates are dwindling, and, the way i see it, its goiing to come down to Dallas and the Skins bidding against eachother for Shanahan. Now, personnally, i'm not that big of a fan of the guy, but he's the best out there that we have a chance to get, and it would allow us to keep some continuity in offensive philosophy. If Jerrys "forced" to keep Phillips, then we're almost assured to land Shanahan.
Wait, if the Colts player acquisition (specifically on defense) is average, how do they spend 20% (if that) of the resources we put into our defense and get a better product? Is the answer Peyton Manning? Because you're leading me in that direction.

The Colts are a premier organization and are loaded with talent. Peyton Manning is the most obvious example of that talent (but he was also the first overall pick, and not some scouting find), but Reggie Wayne and Anthony Gonzalez would both be number one receivers in Washington while Pierre Garcon and Austin Collie would be unquestioned No. 2s. Dallas Clark is one of maybe three or four NFL TEs who is better than Cooley.

Peyton does make people around him better, but the Colts aren't just a bunch of guys. This team has been built over 8-10 years. They weren't a great team in the early part of the decade, just a great offense, but since 2005, they've been the NFL's premier team, and on both sides of the ball as well.
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If the Front Office structure stayed relatively the same, then a potential sleeper candidate is Ron Meeks. Snyder
supposedly really liked him last off-season
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Maybe he did then but there wasn't much available two off season's ago. I do not see Meeks coming here unless BC takes the Panthers HC gig and fires Meeks.

And he happens to land here in the D-Cord. capacity.

I believe Dan is looking to bring in an experienced/pedigree HC that has already WON a Super Bowl. Nothing less.
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