Portis is a BIG problem!!!

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

anyone who says CP is a top 5 back is clueless...you really cant think of more than 4 RBs who you would rather have?

CP is the 3rd best RB on his team.

the stats support it

this year he is injured.....last year brady was injured but was still considered a top QB in the league.....even tho portis is hurt he is still considered a top running back in this league

even if its not by the fans of his own team

anyone who thinks portis isnt a good back is delusional

ive read your opinions of portis over the season and its obvious you spear head things when it comes to portis hating.....right now everybody is upset so they grab on to every pessimistic view of whatever anybody wants to talk about....but that gets in the way of facts

some thread about how many backs are worse than portis? are you really using a season in which he is injured and your redskins stink to judge whether the running back that is basically asked to carry your team is still talented?

...amazing

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

the stats support it

this year he is injured.....last year brady was injured but was still considered a top QB in the league.....even tho portis is hurt he is still considered a top running back in this league

even if its not by the fans of his own team

anyone who thinks portis isnt a good back is delusional

ive read your opinions of portis over the season and its obvious you spear head things when it comes to portis hating.....right now everybody is upset so they grab on to every pessimistic view of whatever anybody wants to talk about....but that gets in the way of facts

some thread about how many backs are worse than portis? are you really using a season in which he is injured and your redskins stink to judge whether the running back that is basically asked to carry your team is still talented?

...amazing

Once again...have you watched a single Redskins game this year?

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

Once again...have you watched a single Redskins game this year?

have you?

how comfortable do you feel getting called out for not knowing the team you call your own?

you are a pessimist and look for the worst thing in everything....portis is in the prime of his career and you are letting a losing season get in the way of the truth

there are teams around the league that would love to have a quality back like clinton portis......but you're probably right.....portis is washed up at 27 years old and nearly 10000 career rushing yards

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

have you?

how comfortable do you feel getting called out for not knowing the team you call your own?

you are a pessimist and look for the worst thing in everything....portis is in the prime of his career and you are letting a losing season get in the way of the truth

there are teams around the league that would love to have a quality back like clinton portis......but you're probably right.....portis is washed up at 27 years old and nearly 10000 career rushing yards

Still haven't answer the question....I question whether or not you have even seen him play this year.

But yes, I have watched every game/carry/yard of CP's career in DC

I am far from a pessimist....I see the good that Betts could do for the team if the organization stops cow towing to CP because he has a bloated contract.

he is 28 by the way, with a ton of injuries piling up, thats far from "in his prime" by NFL running back standards.

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

Still haven't answer the question....I question whether or not you have even seen him play this year.

But yes, I have watched every game/carry/yard of CP's career in DC

I am far from a pessimist....I see the good that Betts could do for the team if the organization stops cow towing to CP because he has a bloated contract.

he is 28 by the way, with a ton of injuries piling up, thats far from "in his prime" by NFL running back standards.

lol in 8 years betts has had more than his fair share of chances

betts has averaged 4.1 yards per carry over his career of 8 years....but nearly every average goes down over a longer sample size....thats just how things work.......so why is portis still averaging 4.5 yards per carry after carrying the ball nearly 1400 more times?

because he is better

betts is at the age in which people start to think running backs go downhill......portis is at his prime and is capable of carrying your team.....but he cant do that when hes only getting 15 carries per game

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

lol in 8 years betts has had more than his fair share of chances

betts has averaged 4.1 yards per carry over his career of 8 years....but nearly every average goes down over a longer sample size....thats just how things work.......so why is portis still averaging 4.5 yards per carry after carrying the ball nearly 1400 more times?

because he is better

betts is at the age in which people start to think running backs go downhill......portis is at his prime and is capable of carrying your team.....but he cant do that when hes only getting 15 carries per game

Serious question. Are you related to Portis?

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Serious question. Are you related to Portis?

nope......seen my fair share of unreasonable hating on players

ive done my fair share of bashing players without a good reason.....ive been in the trenches begging teams to get rid of players because they are washed up.....usually its a symptom of a losing season.....and im big enough to admit that

the saints are very good at losing and the fans are very good at callin out players.....but they are also very good at supporting the team

most saints fans are big enough to stand up and admit that losing brings out the worst in people......unfortunately you guys arent......and i completely understand....the redskins have a rich, proud history and losing is fairly new....but get over it.....you guys will rebound and portis will carry you guys once again

thank god the coach doesnt listen to the fans.......oh wait

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

lol in 8 years betts has had more than his fair share of chances

betts has averaged 4.1 yards per carry over his career of 8 years....but nearly every average goes down over a longer sample size....thats just how things work.......so why is portis still averaging 4.5 yards per carry after carrying the ball nearly 1400 more times?

because he is better

betts is at the age in which people start to think running backs go downhill......portis is at his prime and is capable of carrying your team.....but he cant do that when hes only getting 15 carries per game

The only time Betts had a legit opportunity to be the feature back he ripped off 5 straight 100 yard games.

But this thread isn't about Betts, its about Portis...

I just don't see how you are drawing the conclusion that Portis can "carry the team" what has he shown this year to prove that? On the best run of his career he couldn't even score with one man to beat and a blocker in front. Name on other top 5 back that does that?

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

The only time Betts had a legit opportunity to be the feature back he ripped off 5 straight 100 yard games.

But this thread isn't about Betts, its about Portis...

I just don't see how you are drawing the conclusion that Portis can "carry the team" what has he shown this year to prove that? On the best run of his career he couldn't even score with one man to beat and a blocker in front. Name on other top 5 back that does that?

how about rather than blaming that on portis, giving the credit to the defender.....thats where you are a pessimist......its portis' fault because he didnt score on a GREAT RUN......be happy he put your team in a position to score.....dont hate him because the blocker couldnt block or the defender made a fantastic play

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

The only time Betts had a legit opportunity to be the feature back he ripped off 5 straight 100 yard games.

But this thread isn't about Betts, its about Portis...

I just don't see how you are drawing the conclusion that Portis can "carry the team" what has he shown this year to prove that? On the best run of his career he couldn't even score with one man to beat and a blocker in front. Name on other top 5 back that does that?

He's arguing that based on past stats. He hasn't seen the games this year.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

The only time Betts had a legit opportunity to be the feature back he ripped off 5 straight 100 yard games.

But this thread isn't about Betts, its about Portis...

I just don't see how you are drawing the conclusion that Portis can "carry the team" what has he shown this year to prove that? On the best run of his career he couldn't even score with one man to beat and a blocker in front. Name on other top 5 back that does that?

AP this pass week got the ball knocked out his hands from behind. Remember that Sports Center highlight? That 70 plus yard run proves he is still valid. The argumant against Betts has always been he hits the hole hard and runs straight forward, often getting the balls knocked out his hands and running over his blockers. The last two weeks we haven't saw the real Betts. I think Rock should be in front of Betts. Nowadays, everybody wants to be an insurgent and over throw something. Man, chill! Redskin revolt. Man this team is about to go on a run.

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

Still haven't answer the question....I question whether or not you have even seen him play this year.

for some reason i have to answer this question? of course......why would i be on a redskins forum, talking redskins football without at least adequate information to back up my statements?

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

Still haven't answer the question....I question whether or not you have even seen him play this year.

But yes, I have watched every game/carry/yard of CP's career in DC

I am far from a pessimist....I see the good that Betts could do for the team if the organization stops cow towing to CP because he has a bloated contract.

he is 28 by the way, with a ton of injuries piling up, thats far from "in his prime" by NFL running back standards.

We tried Betts before, I give him credit, he has had a couple good games. But we have saw this movie before. It ends with Tampa Bay winning the game because Betts fumbled on his only carry. A carry with no other purpose than to run out the clock. No one's cow towing to Portis by letting him start. He has earned his starting position. You not making sense. You seem to think Betts has not been the starter because of preferential treatment for Portis? Betts fumbled his behind to the bench, and you know it.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

We tried Betts before, I give him credit, he has had a couple good games. But we have saw this movie before. It ends with Tampa Bay winning the game because Betts fumbled on his only carry. A carry with no other purpose than to run out the clock. No one's cow towing to Portis by letting him start. He has earned his starting position. You not making sense. You seem to think Betts has not been the starter because of preferential treatment for Portis? Betts fumbled his behind to the bench, and you know it.

I think all the guys on offense earned their jobs, but one thing i feel from this team, is that once somebody gets a spot, it is theres for the duration. For example, Campbell has always been the unchallenged QB, no matter what. No matter how bad he plays. Even Joe Gibbs knew to stick with Collins because he was the hot hand, even though Campbell had recovered from his injury for the playoffs.

Now Portis won't lose his job to injury, but really, Betts has outplayed him at this point. He deserves to finish the year. A 3-6 team that is going nowhere should at least get to play everyone so that they can see what they have roster wise.

We won't do that. It really is a sad state when injuries are the only way you get to see depth at a position. For Example; Campbell would have cost us the season in 2007 had it not be for his injury and then Todd Collins coming in.

in 2006 Portis got injured and Betts rattled off five 100+ yard games. This year is the same way.

I just hope after this year that everyone has to battle for a job...not just become an anointed starter.

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I think all the guys on offense earned their jobs, but one thing i feel from this team, is that once somebody gets a spot, it is theres for the duration. For example, Campbell has always been the unchallenged QB, no matter what. No matter how bad he plays. Even Joe Gibbs knew to stick with Collins because he was the hot hand, even though Campbell had recovered from his injury for the playoffs.

Now Portis won't lose his job to injury, but really, Betts has outplayed him at this point. He deserves to finish the year. A 3-6 team that is going nowhere should at least get to play everyone so that they can see what they have roster wise.

We won't do that. It really is a sad state when injuries are the only way you get to see depth at a position. For Example; Campbell would have cost us the season in 2007 had it not be for his injury and then Todd Collins coming in.

in 2006 Portis got injured and Betts rattled off five 100+ yard games. This year is the same way.

I just hope after this year that everyone has to battle for a job...not just become an anointed starter.

totally agree again..100% Doc Walker said it at the beginning of the year....

Why should anyone on team the finishes last in the division be guaranteed anything?