Portis is a BIG problem!!!

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Can we ban this guy?

Even the Cowboys or Giant fans on this board make more sense.

i never once mentioned that i watched the rams game did i? in fact.....i told you guys which games i did get to watch

no i didnt watch all of those games and no i had no idea i was going to be having this conversation....i dont watch the redskins like i watch the saints....i watch the redskins because its football......not to analyze them

you guys are clowns

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

i never once mentioned that i watched the rams game did i? in fact.....i told you guys which games i did get to watch

no i didnt watch all of those games and no i had no idea i was going to be having this conversation....i dont watch the redskins like i watch the saints....i watch the redskins because its football......not to analyze them

Well then you need to stop posting then, or stop making arguments you can't back up. Otherwise you're just basically spamming the board with your non-sense. I mean we don't expect everyone here to be a game analyst, but the whole pulling things out of your ass does get tiresome.

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well then you need to stop posting then, or stop making arguments you can't back up. Otherwise you're just basically spamming the board with your non-sense. I mean we don't expect everyone here to be a game analyst, but the whole pulling things out of your ass does get tiresome.

lol im just as welcome to post here as you are

just because you disagree with what i say doesnt mean im wrong

i havent seen a valid argument yet to tell me why portis should sit and betts should start over him other than a bunch of disgruntled fans complaining about the team and blaming a scapegoat for the team's failures

[CantonLegend]

betts is older than portis.....hes right at the age where production drops off right?

betts has less yardage than portis this season even tho betts is clearly better? i dont understand that either

betts was given his chance to be a starter but since portis' arrival in washington he has yet to relinquish his position

[TheBigDaddy]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

betts is older than portis.....hes right at the age where production drops off right?

betts has less yardage than portis this season even tho betts is clearly better? i dont understand that either

betts was given his chance to be a starter but since portis' arrival in washington he has yet to relinquish his position

I always laugh when fans from one team start "telling" fans of another team what is going to happen with the other teams players.

Nevertheless in 2006,
when portis went down, Betts started 9 of the 16 games and had over 1100yds rushing. While it was a horrible year, could Betts have gone for 1800+yds rushing had he started the entire year and would it have made a difference in the season?

Who knows, but not bad for a backup and only starting half the season.

Just a little food for thought.......

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by TheBigDaddy

I always laugh when fans from one team start "telling" fans of another team what is going to happen with the other teams players.

Nevertheless in 2006,
when portis went down, Betts started 9 of the 16 games and had over 1100yds rushing. While it was a horrible year, could Betts have gone for 1800+yds rushing had he started the entire year and would it have made a difference in the season?

Who knows, but not bad for a backup and only starting half the season.

Just a little food for thought.......

Isn't it hilarious?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

betts is older than portis.....hes right at the age where production drops off right?n

The drop off in production for a RB is not just based on age, but age + number of carries. While Betts may be older than Portis, Betts has not had the same number of carries (and therefore the same amount of punishment) than Portis has. So in this particular fact that you are bringing up to "make your case" you are WRONG. Sadly, you'll just laugh it off and put more pictures of clowns or some other crap.

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

betts has less yardage than portis this season even tho betts is clearly better? i dont understand that either

Well this is a naive simple-minded argument which I'll disprove, however I'm sure you'll laugh it off or something.

Many people are making the argument that Betts has made a more significant impact with his running this season than Portis has. While Portis (494 yds) may have more yards than Betts' 205 yds. (since he has played more games than Betts); Betts in two games has had a higher per game rushing yard average (4.1, 4.7) than Portis had in the first half of the season, and he has already doubled the number of TDs (2) that Portis scored (1).

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

betts was given his chance to be a starter but since portis' arrival in washington he has yet to relinquish his position

Ok, this is where you have to do this moronic thing of being specific about your claims and mention facts that support your argument. So allow me to make the provide the following information:

- Betts was drafted in the Spurrier regime in the 2nd round of the 2002 draft. A RB by the name of Stephen Davis was still the RB during that season.
- In 2003, the team brought Trung Canidate to be the RB (if memory serves me right), Betts only played 9 games that season and ran for 255 yds, almost half of what Canidate produced (600 yds) in 11 games.
- By 2004, Joe Gibbs decided to bring Portis in the blockbuster trade, Betts was a leftover from the Spurrier era.

Now Betts did have the chance to become the starter in 2006 when Portis went down with injury, and had a 1,174 yds season. However, this is when Portis was in his prime, and of course the team would not get rid of Portis at that stage.

So given this information, I don't understand where you see a situation where Betts was even given the chance to be the starter...save for 2006, in a year that he actually gave the front office a reason for him to be the starter.

You keep saying that you have the right to post and express your opinion...this is the only part in which you are correct. It is my opinion that you do not bring any type of educated discussion to this forum. You keep making arguments without any type of facts or other information to back them up, you dismiss any counter arguments made by people, even when they prove you completely wrong.

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The drop off in production for a RB is not just based on age, but age + number of carries. While Betts may be older than Portis, Betts has not had the same number of carries (and therefore the same amount of punishment) than Portis has. So in this particular fact that you are bringing up to "make your case" you are WRONG. Sadly, you'll just laugh it off and put more pictures of clowns or some other crap.

lol that was a sarcastic statement based on what your peers are offering up as suggestions for why portis is done.....hes too old.....

portis isnt too old.....there isnt an age limit to be a good running back in the league.....different factors result in decreases in production....i was merely trying to point out how foolish that argument is.....and you responded exactly how i expected thereby proving my point even further

Well this is a naive simple-minded argument which I'll disprove, however I'm sure you'll laugh it off or something.

Many people are making the argument that Betts has made a more significant impact with his running this season than Portis has. While Portis (494 yds) may have more yards than Betts' 205 yds. (since he has played more games than Betts); Betts in two games has had a higher per game rushing yard average (4.1, 4.7) than Portis had in the first half of the season, and he has already doubled the number of TDs (2) that Portis scored (1).

once again....a sarcastic statement....the entire post was sarcasm bro

however, you are using 2 games to prove betts is better than portis?

Ok, this is where you have to do this moronic thing of being specific about your claims and mention facts that support your argument. So allow me to make the provide the following information:

- Betts was drafted in the Spurrier regime in the 2nd round of the 2002 draft. A RB by the name of Stephen Davis was still the RB during that season.
- In 2003, the team brought Trung Canidate to be the RB (if memory serves me right), Betts only played 9 games that season and ran for 255 yds, almost half of what Canidate produced (600 yds) in 11 games.
- By 2004, Joe Gibbs decided to bring Portis in the blockbuster trade, Betts was a leftover from the Spurrier era.

Now Betts did have the chance to become the starter in 2006 when Portis went down with injury, and had a 1,174 yds season. However, this is when Portis was in his prime, and of course the team would not get rid of Portis at that stage.

So given this information, I don't understand where you see a situation where Betts was even given the chance to be the starter...save for 2006, in a year that he actually gave the front office a reason for him to be the starter.

betts has been in the league for 8 seasons and has cracked the starting lineup only a handful of times when the real starter has gone down with an injury.........

one thing im curious about tho....wouldnt the coaching staff put the best RB out on the field? if betts was better he would've started over portis.....he doesnt.....shouldnt that tell you something?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

one thing im curious about tho....wouldnt the coaching staff put the best RB out on the field? if betts was better he would've started over portis.....he doesnt.....shouldnt that tell you something?

If Betts continues to produce the same way he has, I'm sure the coaching staff would want to put the best RB out on the field. However, Portis happens to have a direct line to the ownership and would run his mouth in the local media about it, which I'm sure you can pick up in the few games you've seen.

I don't think there's a fan that will discredit and ignore the accomplishments that Portis has had as a Redskins. However, we're not being narrow-minded like you are by saying that just because he was great before he should be the starter in a year when injuries/age/faulty o-line/not practicing/etc., etc. have caused him to have a subpar first half of the season.

You just like to fuck with people and come up with your ignorant ramblings about how great he was.

If Portis was healthy and in his past form, there wouldn't even be a discussion. But unfortunately for your piss poor argument, he's not.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

i never once mentioned that i watched the rams game did i? in fact.....i told you guys which games i did get to watch

no i didnt watch all of those games and no i had no idea i was going to be having this conversation....i dont watch the redskins like i watch the saints....i watch the redskins because its football......not to analyze them

you guys are clowns

1) a quick look back in the thread will reveal that you were repeatedly asked what games you had watched and you repeatedly dodged the question

2) if you do not watch the Redskins analytically, then why the heck are you wasting our time by sharing your analysis? Worse, why are you so arrogantly and inflexibly asserting the superiority of your analysis?

Please find another team site to plague.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Lotus

1) a quick look back in the thread will reveal that you were repeatedly asked what games you had watched and you repeatedly dodged the question

2) if you do not watch the Redskins analytically, then why the heck are you wasting our time by sharing your analysis? Worse, why are you so arrogantly and inflexibly asserting the superiority of your analysis?

Please find another team site to plague.

that's funny, he has all the stats but can't --won't-- name one game that he's watched.

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by Lotus

1) a quick look back in the thread will reveal that you were repeatedly asked what games you had watched and you repeatedly dodged the question

2) if you do not watch the Redskins analytically, then why the heck are you wasting our time by sharing your analysis? Worse, why are you so arrogantly and inflexibly asserting the superiority of your analysis?

Please find another team site to plague.

Originally Posted by 12thMan

that's funny, he has all the stats but can't --won't-- name one game that he's watched.

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

so really...you havent gotten to see many redskins games?

i dont live in saints TV area.....i do get to see the redskins because the browns cant manage to sell out their games and the redskins games have been against teams that do manage to sell out their games

like new york, atlanta and carolina

did i not say which games i watched? sorry....normally i would just talk slow so people like you can understand what im saying

i guess i could try to type it slower.....i guess

nnnnnnneeeeewwwwwwww yyyyyooooooorrrrrrkkkkkk, aaatttllllanntttaaa, and ccaaaarrrrooooooolllllliiiiiinnnnaaaa

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

did i not say which games i watched? sorry....normally i would just talk slow so people like you can understand what im saying

i guess i could try to type it slower.....i guess

nnnnnnneeeeewwwwwwww yyyyyooooooorrrrrrkkkkkk, aaatttllllanntttaaa, and ccaaaarrrrooooooolllllliiiiiinnnnaaaa

Well it takes slow person to know a slow person, I'm still waiting for your response to your last post about Betts.

Also, I still think you are wrong about Reggie Bush (no response on that either).

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

did i not say which games i watched? sorry....normally i would just talk slow so people like you can understand what im saying

i guess i could try to type it slower.....i guess

nnnnnnneeeeewwwwwwww yyyyyooooooorrrrrrkkkkkk, aaatttllllanntttaaa, and ccaaaarrrrooooooolllllliiiiiinnnnaaaa

Look, jerk, you were asked many times. You dodged the question repeatedly. You only produced that list under verbal duress. Then you treat us like we are the dicks?

And you continue to make grand claims about the 2009 Redskins despite seeing only a third of their games.

I've never asked for someone to be banned before but please ban this person.

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Look, jerk, you were asked many times. You dodged the question repeatedly. You only produced that list under verbal duress. Then you treat us like we are the dicks?

And you continue to make grand claims about the 2009 Redskins despite seeing only a third of their games.

I've never asked for someone to be banned before but please ban this person.

aw im sorry i didnt mean to hurt your feelings......how about a hug?



i posted the games ive watched earlier in this thread but you guys ignored it.....so i had to post it slower so you guys would catch it......next time read my post the first time so i dont have to repeat myself

remember that i offered up an open invitation to visit my home site.....you all are more than welcome to lurk, troll, post....whatever...and you will not be treated with disrespect