Portis is a BIG problem!!!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

you're right....hes hurt....which is why hes not playing

however.....i disagree that his affiliation with the owner has anything to do with his playing time and positioning as a starter

it is the coaches call to put the starters on the field......it doesnt matter what the owner says about who he wants to play because it is ultimately the decision of the coach.....zorns job is on the line anyway....the last thing he should be worried about is what the owner has to say about who should start

zorn is taking full advantage of his liberties as a head coach that he still has and one of them is designating starters.....he came in to the team completely unbiased towards which running back should start and selected portis as the feature back.....because he is better.....zorn has no affiliation with portis whatsoever and if portis werent the better of the 2 players, there would be absolutely no reason for zorn to continue to milk that cow

Well this is your opinion as an outsider, which is understandable. However, my beef (and many people's beef) with you is that you ignore any arguments made by those in the DC area or who closely follow the team.

In theory, what you said should be the case. It should be the coach's decision to put a player on the field, and not the owner. However, this clearly shows your lack of knowledge of the antics of Dan Snyder.

However, in two separate incidents, Portis had public disagreements with the head coach of the team (one with Gibbs, and the other with Zorn). In both situations, while the coaches were right in their intentions/arguments/actions, it was Portis that came on the winning side of these disagreements (I am too lazy to look up the articles about this).

Once again, you may bring some valid points to an argument, but you shouldn't discredit those of us that may know the team better than a Saints fans. Just like you seem to know more about Reggie Bush than I do.

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well this is your opinion as an outsider, which is understandable. However, my beef (and many people's beef) with you is that you ignore any arguments made by those in the DC area or who closely follow the team.

In theory, what you said should be the case. It should be the coach's decision to put a player on the field, and not the owner. However, this clearly shows your lack of knowledge of the antics of Dan Snyder.

However, in two separate incidents, Portis had public disagreements with the head coach of the team (one with Gibbs, and the other with Zorn). In both situations, while the coaches were right in their intentions/arguments/actions, it was Portis that came on the winning side of these disagreements (I am too lazy to look up the articles about this).

Once again, you may bring some valid points to an argument, but you shouldn't discredit those of us that may know the team better than a Saints fans. Just like you seem to know more about Reggie Bush than I do.

i would never intentionally try to pretend like i know more than you guys......but i do realize that losing brings out the worst in people and like ive said before......when teams are losing, there is always a scapegoat......portis may not be the flower everyone wants him to be....but as a rose he looks and smells pretty good on the field......its off the field that he may get you with his thorns

im trying to point out that even tho his numbers are down this season, calling for his head is jumping the gun......especially considering his history with this franchise and his amazing ability to carry the team on his back almost single handidly

is there another back in the league that is asked to do as much as portis? maybe, but none of them do it as well as portis

you guys definitly know more about the redskins than i do......but i have watched games and i have watched portis and i didnt notice anything significantly worse than what he has shown the past few seasons

one thing that you cant ignore is the dropoff in carries per game.....if he would get his normal 6 more carries per game he would have nearly 700 yards already this season and would be right where you guys expect him to be

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

i would never intentionally try to pretend like i know more than you guys......but i do realize that losing brings out the worst in people and like ive said before......when teams are losing, there is always a scapegoat......portis may not be the flower everyone wants him to be....but as a rose he looks and smells pretty good on the field......its off the field that he may get you with his thorns

im trying to point out that even tho his numbers are down this season, calling for his head is jumping the gun......especially considering his history with this franchise and his amazing ability to carry the team on his back almost single handidly

is there another back in the league that is asked to do as much as portis? maybe, but none of them do it as well as portis

you guys definitly know more about the redskins than i do......but i have watched games and i have watched portis and i didnt notice anything significantly worse than what he has shown the past few seasons

one thing that you cant ignore is the dropoff in carries per game.....if he would get his normal 6 more carries per game he would have nearly 700 yards already this season and would be right where you guys expect him to be

While Portis may have been able to carry the team on his back before, I really don't think he or he should. There is a reason why teams are going to a two-runningback system, and Portis career and his significance to the team can be extended if we adopt that.

I think if Portis is 100% healthy, he should be back, but the team should consider a two-back system such as in Dallas and Carolina. However, I don't think Portis will be 100% healthy this season, and given the dangers of his concussion (especially after seeing what happened to Westbrook).

I think those that want Betts to continue to play are being more realistic to the fact that Portis is not going to help this team while he continues with injury and now with this terrible concussion he's had.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

i would never intentionally try to pretend like i know more than you guys......but i do realize that losing brings out the worst in people and like ive said before......when teams are losing, there is always a scapegoat......portis may not be the flower everyone wants him to be....but as a rose he looks and smells pretty good on the field......its off the field that he may get you with his thorns

im trying to point out that even tho his numbers are down this season, calling for his head is jumping the gun......especially considering his history with this franchise and his amazing ability to carry the team on his back almost single handidly

is there another back in the league that is asked to do as much as portis? maybe, but none of them do it as well as portis

you guys definitly know more about the redskins than i do......but i have watched games and i have watched portis and i didnt notice anything significantly worse than what he has shown the past few seasons

one thing that you cant ignore is the dropoff in carries per game.....if he would get his normal 6 more carries per game he would have nearly 700 yards already this season and would be right where you guys expect him to be

Dude you had best be Clinton Portis. Because if you're not, you need to remove your lips from his