(Update) Bills Fire Jauron; Plan to Speak with Shanahan

[BigHairedAristocrat]

what are you hearing smoot? why on earth would anyone want to coach in buffalo? you've got a meddlesome owner who is (despite his protests to the contrary) cheap and a small market team with less talent than almost any other team in the NFL. why on earth would shanahan be legitimately interested in Buffalo when much better positions should be available?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

what are you hearing smoot? why on earth would anyone want to coach in buffalo? you've got a meddlesome owner who is (despite his protests to the contrary) cheap and a small market team with less talent than almost any other team in the NFL. why on earth would shanahan be legitimately interested in Buffalo when much better positions should be available?

Well NFL.com's Vic Carucci says they are meeting next week. Aside from that, Shanahan is reportedly intrigued with the financial state of the team (who knows how much that matters in a possible uncapped year though), and supposedly is getting assurances that money is not an object and he will get complete control. Maybe Wilson is changing or realizes that is his probably his last chance?

Still, what does Buffalo offer that Dallas and Washington don't? Probably nothing. There is one thing though (and it would be a big gamble on Shanahan's part) that could make Buffalo much more appealing for Shanahan. And it's probably kind of morbid also. But Wilson is 91 years old and he has said his family will not inherit the team. So imagine the Bills moving to Los Angeles (with or without Wilson) and Shanahan as head honcho/part owner.

Anyhow, I still would be surprised if Shanny goes to the Bills. But crazier things have happened I suppose.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well NFL.com's Vic Carucci says they are meeting next week. Aside from that, Shanahan is reportedly intrigued with the financial state of the team (who knows how much that matters in a possible uncapped year though), and supposedly is getting assurances that money is not an object and he will get complete control. Maybe Wilson is changing or realizes that is his probably his last chance?

Still, what does Buffalo offer that Dallas and Washington don't? Probably nothing. There is one thing though (and it would be a big gamble on Shanahan's part) that could make Buffalo much more appealing for Shanahan. And it's probably kind of morbid also. But Wilson is 91 years old and he has said his family will not inherit the team. So imagine the Bills moving to Los Angeles (with or without Wilson) and Shanahan as head honcho/part owner.

Anyhow, I still would be surprised if Shanny goes to the Bills. But crazier things have happened I suppose.

I think there's also the personal challenge aspect of it for a coach. If what you say is right about the money, Shanny may see this a la Tuna, the chance to rebuild a team & put it on course to win. Kinda like coaches that take jobs to build small college programs into big winning programs.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well NFL.com's Vic Carucci says they are meeting next week. Aside from that, Shanahan is reportedly intrigued with the financial state of the team (who knows how much that matters in a possible uncapped year though), and supposedly is getting assurances that money is not an object and he will get complete control. Maybe Wilson is changing or realizes that is his probably his last chance?

Still, what does Buffalo offer that Dallas and Washington don't? Probably nothing. There is one thing though (and it would be a big gamble on Shanahan's part) that could make Buffalo much more appealing for Shanahan. And it's probably kind of morbid also. But Wilson is 91 years old and he has said his family will not inherit the team. So imagine the Bills moving to Los Angeles (with or without Wilson) and Shanahan as head honcho/part owner.

Anyhow, I still would be surprised if Shanny goes to the Bills. But crazier things have happened I suppose.

Do you honestly see that happening?? I mean I know the league wants a team in LA but that would be a real hard thing to see.....no team in Buffalo. Great fans there...

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Do you honestly see that happening?? I mean I know the league wants a team in LA but that would be a real hard thing to see.....no team in Buffalo. Great fans there...

Personally, I think the Bills will end up moving to Toronto or, at minimum, split home games there. The Jags make the most sense to move to LA, in my opinion atleast.

[SmootSmack]

Cleveland has great fans and they still lost the Browns, albeit temporarily. That said the Bills are not as likely as say the Jags to move. As for Billick and Bradford it's moreso something that I think could happen. I'm not advocating it, but it won't neccesarily upset me either. Wouldn't be my first choice though

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Cleveland has great fans and they still lost the Browns, albeit temporarily. That said the Bills are not as likely as say the Jags to move. As for Billick and Bradford it's moreso something that I think could happen. I'm not advocating it, but it won't neccesarily upset me either. Wouldn't be my first choice though

what would be your first choice (keeping it realistic, of course)?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

what would be your first choice (keeping it realistic, of course)?

Well my absolute first choice would be that we simply see success with Zorn and Campbell. That'd be the best scenario. You'd avoid having to adjust to a new head coach and you wouldn't have to use a pick or make a trade for a QB. So that would be the best scenario.

If Zorn and Campbell were gone, and I'd assume Cerrato as well, then I'd like to bring in someone like Floyd Reese to oversee everything, Jimmy Raye III as the GM, and then someone like Shanahan (Kyle, not Mike) as the head coach (or heck maybe even Gary Kubiak) to be our next head coach for years to come.

But I understand the need for a big name

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Cleveland has great fans and they still lost the Browns, albeit temporarily. That said the Bills are not as likely as say the Jags to move. As for Billick and Bradford it's moreso something that I think could happen. I'm not advocating it, but it won't neccesarily upset me either. Wouldn't be my first choice though

If the Jags move in the next 3 years or so.. would that be the quickest move from entering to the modern NFL to changing cities? Anybody have a clue what the shortest stay was?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

If the Jags move in the next 3 years or so.. would that be the quickest move from entering to the modern NFL to changing cities? Anybody have a clue what the shortest stay was?

Well the Redskins were the Boston Braves for five years before moving to DC

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

what are you hearing smoot? why on earth would anyone want to coach in buffalo? you've got a meddlesome owner who is (despite his protests to the contrary) cheap and a small market team with less talent than almost any other team in the NFL. why on earth would shanahan be legitimately interested in Buffalo when much better positions should be available?

This from the NFL.com:

News
Shanahan likely to meet with Bills officials next week

Posted: November 19th, 2009 | Vic Carucci | Tags: Bill Cowher, Buffalo Bills, Mike Shanahan, Ralph Wilson
Mike Shanahan has emerged as the Bills’ “No. 1 candidate” to become their full-time coach after the season, according to a source close to the team.
The source said a meeting between Shanahan, Bills owner Ralph Wilson and Bills chief operating officer/general manager Russ Brandon, who is overseeing the hiring process, likely will take place next week.
Former Steelers coach Bill Cowher also is high on the Bills’ list of candidates, but at the moment, they are focused on Shanahan, who guided the Broncos to back-to-back Super Bowl championships in the late 1990s but was fired after last season.
There’s also strong speculation that the Redskins are pursuing Shanahan to replace Jim Zorn as their coach after the season. However, according to the source close to the Bills, Shanahan is intrigued by the “low-maintenance” situation he would have in Buffalo as opposed to Washington.
The Bills, the source said, are willing to offer whatever salary is necessary to land a high-end candidate such as Shanahan and would give him total control of the football operation, something Wilson has generally been opposed to doing in the past. Adding to the job’s attractiveness, according to the source, is the fact the team is in solid financial shape and not burdened by any dead salary-cap money.
“This is his (Wilson’s) last coach and (he) is going to do everything it takes to get it right,” the source said of the 91-year-old owner.
The Bills fired Dick Jauron on Tuesday and made defensive coordinator Perry Fewell their interim head coach.
– Vic Carucci

Total control and no meddling. Hmmm. Plus a T.O. WR.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

This from the NFL.com:



Total control and no meddling. Hmmm. Plus a T.O. WR.

T.O. isnt under contract next year, so i doubt he'll factor into the equation at all. However, i am curious what was meant in the article by the "low-maintenance" situation in buffalo vs. washington. I can only think of it meaning a meddlesome owner. However, if Snyder and Wilson are both willing to back off and give Shanahan total control, I don't see what the difference would be.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

what are you hearing smoot? why on earth would anyone want to coach in buffalo? you've got a meddlesome owner who is (despite his protests to the contrary) cheap and a small market team with less talent than almost any other team in the NFL. why on earth would shanahan be legitimately interested in Buffalo when much better positions should be available?

Maybe he really likes the cold.