Still Encouraged; Still Love My Skins: Bright Spots

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Funny, I was just looking at the stat sheet and as porous as the offensive line we only gave up one sack.

It's the good Campbell vs. bad Campbell difference. Campbell has shown in the past that he can be a franchise quarterback, and he spend about 6 consecutive games this year looking like a guy on his way out of town. Yesterday, he beat the sacks with a quick release.

There's not a whole lot of control that we have as a team over performance factors like making sure Campbell sees everything that is happening on the field, but him not getting hit much in the Denver game certainly had a lot to do with it.

There are guys in this league who will look very, very effective even when they are getting banged around all the time. Those guys are the true franchise performers who are in such high demand. Most teams, most super-bowl winning teams, don't have such a player (after all, Peyton has one title in eleven pro seasons, and Brees/Rivers have none). So you have to manufacture good QB play sometimes. The Redskins could do this, if the committed to it, but in the absence of a full-out committment to the current group, a rebuilding of the offense would be a better option than maintaining the status quo and getting four of these games a year.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It's the good Campbell vs. bad Campbell difference. Campbell has shown in the past that he can be a franchise quarterback, and he spend about 6 consecutive games this year looking like a guy on his way out of town. Yesterday, he beat the sacks with a quick release.

There's not a whole lot of control that we have as a team over performance factors like making sure Campbell sees everything that is happening on the field, but him not getting hit much in the Denver game certainly had a lot to do with it.

There are guys in this league who will look very, very effective even when they are getting banged around all the time. Those guys are the true franchise performers who are in such high demand. Most teams, most super-bowl winning teams, don't have such a player (after all, Peyton has one title in eleven pro seasons, and Brees/Rivers have none). So you have to manufacture good QB play sometimes. The Redskins could do this, if the committed to it, but in the absence of a full-out committment to the current group, a rebuilding of the offense would be a better option than maintaining the status quo and getting four of these games a year.

Where's the logic here? improved O-line play, improved play all round. Hmmm interesting. Rebuild we could wind up like Dallas 13 years no playoff win. But you would be happy we won't have Campbell. I want the skins to win regardless of who is the QB. I wouldn't get much satisfaction watching my team lose as long as Campbell is gone. Makes no sense. waht happens if we draft fisrt round QB and he is a Ryan Leaf twin? You would be happy no Campbell.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Where's the logic here? improved O-line play, improved play all round. Hmmm interesting. Rebuild we could wind up like Dallas 13 years no playoff win. But you would be happy we won't have Campbell. I want the skins to win regardless of who is the QB. I wouldn't get much satisfaction watching my team lose as long as Campbell is gone. Makes no sense. waht happens if we draft fisrt round QB and he is a Ryan Leaf twin? You would be happy no Campbell.

You may have a comprehension issue.

Or, perhaps, I may.

[rbanerjee23]

Kudos to giving JC props, he has done a really very decent job given how bad the offensive line surrounding him has been, I mean like you said, week in and week out he somehow manages to be average given the terrible offensive line around him

Ive said it once and I'll say it again, if you put the exact same offense around Peyton Manning, the qb production would not be any better.

[CRedskinsRule]

Sorry let's not get ahead ourselves. Manning(P) would not go without getting TD's like ours has. No chance.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Sorry let's not get ahead ourselves. Manning(P) would not go without getting TD's like ours has. No chance.

Manning can only be on one team though man. It's not like half of the league has Mannings.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

That's right you haters, I still love the Redskins. So don't come in this thread bitchin' and hatin':}

Seriously, I just wanted to point out a few bright spots, starting with our top three picks from a year ago.


Freddy Davis, Devin Thomas, and Malcolm Kelly

All are starting to find their groove. Every week we see them do the little things right and actually make plays. Malcolm had a very nice catch today lumbering down the sideline, what seemed like forever. Fred Davis had a couple of clutch receptions and he's proving tough to bring down by one tackler. But I'm most impressed with Devin Thomas' recent playmaking ability; mostly after he has the ball in his hands. This guy has nice moves in tight spaces. I think he has the potential to be a very explosive player for the Redskins in the future. You can tell their confidence grows a little every week.

Jason Campbell

I wanted to give a big ups to Campbell for a gutsy performance. How that guy passed for over 250 yards with Cowboys draped over him most of the day, I will never know. I mentioned this is another thread, and I was glad to see Troy Aikman alude to it in his own way, but we're going to have a hard time shipping Campbell out of here without a bonafide option at quarterback. Guys, there's only three really, really good quarterbacks playing in this league right now. All the others are probably benefiting from a supporting cast that Campbell just doesn't have at the moment. I hope the Redskins realize this when they re-visit Campbell's future here in Washington.

Deangelo Hall

For the record, I've been very critical of him and still feel he can improve his game in some areas. But Hall, warts and all, seems to always be around the ball when we need it the most. He's proving to be a game changer at the corner position. Something we've lacked here, quite frankly, since Champ Bailey was here. Don't be surprised to see Hall get a Pro Bowl nod this year.

Team Heart

This team after losing Portis for a few weeks, playing without Haynesworth, then Betts, then Chad, you name it. They just line up and keep fucking coming at you. After Betts and Chad went down, they could have easily packed it in and called it a day, and no one would have blamed them. The best team did not win today that's for sure. As with last week, I'm proud of their effort this week.


Rock Cartwright

Speaking of coming at you, how 'about Rock Cartwright? This guy grabs his lunch pale every Sunday and brings it. Today Rock had his best day as pro and was definitely the leader on the field today. We'll start our cut Rock threads next summer, but for now the man deserves a tip of the hat. Job well done, sir.

I'm not sure what to think of this thread. Davis, Kelly and Thomas are doing better cause we got literally NOHTING from them since day 1. Their production can only go up. We're still not scoring or having any game breaking type of catch and runs.

Today JC played pretty good, he's just not good enough to put us on his back and win a game or two. He is what he is.

Rock just flat out ballled today. What else can you say. I would keep this guy on the team and let him carry the ball more.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'm not sure what to think of this thread. Davis, Kelly and Thomas are doing better cause we got literally NOHTING from them since day 1. Their production can only go up. We're still not scoring or having any game breaking type of catch and runs.

Nor were they given the opportunity. If you can't see the promise in them then you should watch the game closer. Thomas had some nice catches and a very nice return. Davis was solid as he has been recently filling for Cooley. Kelly didn't get many looks but had a nice catch and run. The only problem is that we refuse to have more than one "big" play a drive.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Nor were they given the opportunity. If you can't see the promise in them then you should watch the game closer. Thomas had some nice catches and a very nice return. Davis was solid as he has been recently filling for Cooley. Kelly didn't get many looks but had a nice catch and run. The only problem is that we refuse to have more than one "big" play a drive.

I saw that too, it seemed like every good drive had one big play, then nothing. Very strange.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Nor were they given the opportunity. If you can't see the promise in them then you should watch the game closer. Thomas had some nice catches and a very nice return. Davis was solid as he has been recently filling for Cooley. Kelly didn't get many looks but had a nice catch and run. The only problem is that we refuse to have more than one "big" play a drive.

I don't need to watch the games closer. I just want to see POINTS AND TOUCHDOWNS. I want to see Thomas make plays that Jackson makes for Philly. I want to see a 7 or 8 catch day for 100+ yards. I personally don't think Kelly is any good so he's already a bust in my book. I like what I'm seeing from Davis but I want more. Maybe my expectations are too high.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't need to watch the games closer. I just want to see POINTS AND TOUCHDOWNS. I want to see Thomas make plays that Jackson makes for Philly. I want to see a 7 or 8 catch day for 100+ yards. I personally don't think Kelly is any good so he's already a bust in my book. I like what I'm seeing from Davis but I want more. Maybe my expectations are too high.

After reading this I'd say you do need to watch the games closer still. DT hasn't had the opportunities that DJ has.. let's not worry about DT becoming Desean.. let's worry about DT becoming what he can be.. and right now, when given the opportunity, he's done very well. We're not running him on the same routes that Philly runs Desean often, so you won't see the same plays. You HAVE seen him fighting for extra yards, breaking tackles, and holding onto the ball which is exactly what you want out of him, this isn't Tecmo Bowl.

Kelly doesn't get targeted a lot but I'm thinking that that will change. There's not much reason to not use him to his strengths and that's an issue that we've had with our receivers. If a guy doesn't know every part of the playbook yet then figure out what he is doing well in practice and let him be the playmaker that he is. They're starting to do that with Kelly and it's working. He would've had another nice catch yesterday had Campbell put the ball in the right spot, but instead it got tipped up because it went in front of Kelly, where the defender was.

I don't know what more you want from Davis, he stopped trying to hurdle everybody, he's tough as nails and reliable.

You're just being unrealistic with your expectations. If this was a better team we'd be scoring touchdowns, but I for one will not blame the WR corp anymore because when they've been used properly they've been effective.

[T.O.Killa]

Hey, I thought Edwin Williams played great.

[Beemnseven]

Seems like every summer we talk about Cartwright getting canned. Hopefully next August we'll remember this game. If that ever happens to him he'd get snatched up by somebody like the Patriots real quick.

Maybe this will serve notice to the coaching staff that they need to get the ball in Rock's hands on offense because he really is a playmaker.

[joethiesmanfan]

Hail to the Redskins!!! finally I am agreeing with my fellow Redskins fans. We have some good players. We need to stabilize the coaching and make some additions. No need in gettting rid of young developing players. That would be crazy. ROCK what more can I say. DT what more can I say? The o-line let's take inventory for a minute. We need center more than anything. A Young OT and a young OG. I would rather add a couple pieces to the Defense and make it air tight (a shutdown corner opposite Hall).

[budw38]

We could build something between now and 1-3-10 . F/A we need 2 OL , Draft 1 OL on day 1 , another on day 2 < 4th-5th rd > . Maybe luck out and find a steal at RB/LB/CB or DL in mid-late rd . Bring in A qb to compete with JC < if he stays > .