Why Are We So Divided On Jason Campbell?

[MTK]

Rodgers needs to stop holding the ball so long at times, I wouldn't call him elite just yet. He's good though.

Rodgers also had the benefit of sitting and learning for a full 3 seasons and hasn't had to endure multiple system changes. His WRs are also one of the better groups in the league. He is an example of how to properly break a QB in to this league.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Rodgers needs to stop holding the ball so long at times, I wouldn't call him elite just yet. He's good though.

Rodgers also had the benefit of sitting and learning for a full 3 seasons and hasn't had to endure multiple system changes. His WRs are also one of the better groups in the league.

I love how some people here think every QB is created equal, and the ones who have great O lines and great coaches and great WRs are the ones who go to the HOF. All the rest are just victims of their inferior circumstances.

It flies in the face of logic, but time and time again I see people qualifying why some QBs are better than others. Couldn't it be possible that some QBs are just smarter and more talented than others? I just don't understand why there's got to be some catch that explains why every QB is able to perform.

It reminds me of the same loser mentality people use to make excuses about why they're struggling in their job while the guy in the office next door consistently produces better results. Get off it already. Some people are just better. Period.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

I love how some people here think every QB is created equal, and the ones who have great O lines and great coaches and great WRs are the ones who go to the HOF. All the rest are just victims of their inferior circumstances.

It flies in the face of logic, but time and time again I see people qualifying why some QBs are better than others. Couldn't it be possible that some QBs are just smarter and more talented than others? I just don't understand why there's got to be some catch that explains why every QB is able to perform.

It reminds me of the same loser mentality people use to make excuses about why they're struggling in their job while the guy in the office next door consistently produces better results. Get off it already. Some people are just better. Period.

Relax chief. Of course some guys are simply better, but you also can't just ignore things like system changes and the coaches/players around that QB. All of that is critical to a player's development. A lot of a guys success is due to simply being in the right place at the right time. This team hasn't exactly been a great place for QB development over the course of the last 15+ years. That fact can't be denied. That's all I'm saying.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

I love how some people here think every QB is created equal, and the ones who have great O lines and great coaches and great WRs are the ones who go to the HOF. All the rest are just victims of their inferior circumstances.

It flies in the face of logic, but time and time again I see people qualifying why some QBs are better than others. Couldn't it be possible that some QBs are just smarter and more talented than others? I just don't understand why there's got to be some catch that explains why every QB is able to perform.

It reminds me of the same loser mentality people use to make excuses about why they're struggling in their job while the guy in the office next door consistently produces better results. Get off it already. Some people are just better. Period.

Because some people see medium-efficiency players like Aaron Rodgers and Jay Cutler and Joe Flacco and decide on a whim that they've now seen what real quarterback is supposed to look like, while discriminating against other medium-efficiency players such as Campbell. Your eyes, and my eyes, are pretty helpless to separate a good player from a bad player, with the exception of extreme situations such as JaMarcus Russell or Drew Brees.

And that's just the thing: not everyone in the middle of the league is created equal. But because they are in the middle of the league, they look, at times, like very similar players. And the players in that group that consistently look better tend to be surrounded by the best talent.

Your position simply cannot explain Marc Bulger, for example.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

I love how some people here think every QB is created equal, and the ones who have great O lines and great coaches and great WRs are the ones who go to the HOF. All the rest are just victims of their inferior circumstances.

It flies in the face of logic, but time and time again I see people qualifying why some QBs are better than others. Couldn't it be possible that some QBs are just smarter and more talented than others? I just don't understand why there's got to be some catch that explains why every QB is able to perform.

It reminds me of the same loser mentality people use to make excuses about why they're struggling in their job while the guy in the office next door consistently produces better results. Get off it already. Some people are just better. Period.

I get what you're saying, but I think the point that is often made by JC supportes is that while he may not be a star qb, he can still win w/the right structure. It then becomes a question of what the team is willing to pay to replace him and upgrade the rest of the O. Maybe a fa qb can immediately turn it on, but if you invest a high pick on a qb it takes time & $.

The team has invested some time in JC but they've yet to fully invest in the offense. The 08 draft was a start, but we all agree the O line needs a major overhaul. I have been down on JC this year more so than the past, but I still would prefer to see him stay & see the high picks go to the o line & maybe rb. I wouldn't mind seeing a qb w/the 2nd or later round picks if the right guy is there, knowing that he'll likely not be ready for a couple of years if then.