Bradford still leads, Locker Clausen gain

[DBUCHANON101]

Im not going by what kind of offense a QB played in at college, you can either make the throws or not,system doesnt matter IMO.
Alex Smith was a "spread" QB and id have to say he looks better than Quinn from that ND "pro" style offense.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Im not going by what kind of offense a QB played in at college, you can either make the throws or not,system doesnt matter IMO.
Alex Smith was a "spread" QB and id have to say he looks better than Quinn from that ND "pro" style offense.

System does matter. Spread QB's are in shotgun and rarely under center, but experience dropping back from being under center is necessary in the NFL. Also, spread qb's typically are not required to read defenses at the level that drop-back qb's are.

I think Clausen has more pro-style experience and thus would be more likely to make the transition to the NFL smoothly.

[Big C]

Originally Posted by Lotus

System does matter. Spread QB's are in shotgun and rarely under center, but experience dropping back from being under center is necessary in the NFL. Also, spread qb's typically are not required to read defenses at the level that drop-back qb's are.

I think Clausen has more pro-style experience and thus would be more likely to make the transition to the NFL smoothly.

exactly my point. the learning curve is going to be less for a pro-style guy, and if people really want to win sooner rather than later, a pro-style guy is the way to go all the way imo.

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by Lotus

System does matter. Spread QB's are in shotgun and rarely under center, but experience dropping back from being under center is necessary in the NFL. Also, spread qb's typically are not required to read defenses at the level that drop-back qb's are.

I think Clausen has more pro-style experience and thus would be more likely to make the transition to the NFL smoothly.

I feel its on the player, not the system he ran in college. look at USC and ND lately, both use a "pro" style offense and neither has had a QB come out lately that has been anywhere near impressive. Busts can come from any scheme, you have your Leafs and you have your Klinglers, its all a crapshoot.
Imnot saying Clausen is a bad prospect, i just wouldnt put him ahead of the other QB's simply because of the scheme he played in at ND.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

I feel its on the player, not the system he ran in college. look at USC and ND lately, both use a "pro" style offense and neither has had a QB come out lately that has been anywhere near impressive. Busts can come from any scheme, you have your Leafs and you have your Klinglers, its all a crapshoot.
Imnot saying Clausen is a bad prospect, i just wouldnt put him ahead of the other QB's simply because of the scheme he played in at ND.

You are absolutely correct that busts can come from any scheme. I was hardly arguing that Clausen was a lock.

But, since he has been practicing pro style techniques for 4 years, it stands to reason that he might fit in more quickly with the pros.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Lotus

You are absolutely correct that busts can come from any scheme. I was hardly arguing that Clausen was a lock.

But, since he has been practicing pro style techniques for 4 years, it stands to reason in that he might fit in more quickly with the pros.

Notre Dame did a lot of west coast stuff when Clausen first got there, but he played this season nearly exclusively in the shotgun, with three or four wide receivers on the field and no fullback.

I think Stoops and Weis both play that "adjusted" pro-style offense. The fundamentals of what they both preach are rooted in the professional style of football, with five and seven step drops and such, but when you're trying to win college football games, I think what they believe in takes a back seat to what wins college football games, which is a lot of spread concepts and shotgun work.

Of course, with the NFL trending in this direction naturally, I think it's going to open a lot of opportunities for the players who play primarily out of the shotgun. At least, I can only hope.

I think scouts would rather avoid the spread because their evaluations are made a whole lot more difficult by it, but if more than half the draft-eligible quarterbacks play in that system, someone will eventually man up and develop a translation system.