Our next coach??

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

So now looking at the material picking up Weis might not be a bad idea but obviously Shanahan would not be the right HC for his system. I think Shanahan runs a type of WCO. So who do we pick up as HC?

It's kind of funny how you were all anti-Weis for several posts...yet hadn't really given much thought to his actual background other than he was just fired by Notre Dame as head coach.

Anyhow, Weis and Shanahan probably wouldn't and won't be a good combo. Weis and Cowher on the other hand...

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's kind of funny how you were all anti-Weis for several posts...yet hadn't really given much thought to his actual background other than he was just fired by Notre Dame as head coach.

Anyhow, Weis and Shanahan probably wouldn't and won't be a good combo. Weis and Cowher on the other hand...

IMO, that would be an amazing combination and would definitely be a move that would be absolutely brilliant for this team. Unfortunately, Snyder and Cowher aren't interested in eachother from what i've read.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

IMO, that would be an amazing combination and would definitely be a move that would be absolutely brilliant for this team. Unfortunately, Snyder and Cowher aren't interested in eachother from what i've read.

Yeah that's the rumor now, but it wasn't a few months back, and it may not be a few months from now. A lot can change between now and January

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah that's the rumor now, but it wasn't a few months back, and it may not be a few months from now. A lot can change between now and January

Thats true. We can only hope. The fact that hiring Cowher and committing to him long-term would be the best move Snyder (low risk / high reward) could make in the offseason from a football perspective, its about the only thing Snyder could do that would appease the fans who are fed up with how he's been running this team. Hiring Shanahan and giving him total control just aint gonna cut it.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Thats true. We can only hope. The fact that hiring Cowher and committing to him long-term would be the best move Snyder (low risk / high reward) could make in the offseason from a football perspective, its about the only thing Snyder could do that would appease the fans who are fed up with how he's been running this team. Hiring Shanahan and giving him total control just aint gonna cut it.

I would settle for starting with Cerrato and telling him his services were no longer needed.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I would settle for starting with Cerrato and telling him his services were no longer needed.

I wouldnt fire Cerrato unless/until I was pretty sure I could land a specific replacement. If Snyder wants either of the big name coaches (really its down to just Shanahan and Cowher at this point), he'd need to hire them first and have them select the front office structure they wanted. Its kind of a backwards way to do it, but the only way I can see it happening this year.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I wouldnt fire Cerrato unless/until I was pretty sure I could land a specific replacement. If Snyder wants either of the big name coaches (really its down to just Shanahan and Cowher at this point), he'd need to hire them first and have them select the front office structure they wanted. Its kind of a backwards way to do it, but the only way I can see it happening this year.

kinda like hiring a oc before you have a hc?

[jadmanjeff]

I don't know about the head coach but how does charlie weis as oc and al groh as dc sound to u guys?

[celts32]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I wouldnt fire Cerrato unless/until I was pretty sure I could land a specific replacement. If Snyder wants either of the big name coaches (really its down to just Shanahan and Cowher at this point), he'd need to hire them first and have them select the front office structure they wanted. Its kind of a backwards way to do it, but the only way I can see it happening this year.

I would fire Vinny even if it meant I needed to pull someone off this board and name them GM.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah that's the rumor now, but it wasn't a few months back, and it may not be a few months from now. A lot can change between now and January

DS is the guru at changing peoples mind. Which is why I still hold out a smidgen of hope everyone gets snatched up and he's left with Marty, but I am now believing there is most likely a verbal agreement already in place with Shanahan. Just a feeling. Otherwise DS would be panicking about teams that have already called him to meat with him. Cerrato and Zorn would already be fired and DS would have Redskins1 enroute to pick him up.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

DS is the guru at changing peoples mind. Which is why I still hold out a smidgen of hope everyone gets snatched up and he's left with Marty, but I am now believing there is most likely a verbal agreement already in place with Shanahan. Just a feeling. Otherwise DS would be panicking about teams that have already called him to meat with him. Cerrato and Zorn would already be fired and DS would have Redskins1 enroute to pick him up.

It's possible Shanahan is expressing interest just to drive up his salary or see who really wants him/will let him do his thing. I mean I didn't hear anything about his visits afterwards, typically there won't be much until after the season anyways but who knows.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's kind of funny how you were all anti-Weis for several posts...yet hadn't really given much thought to his actual background other than he was just fired by Notre Dame as head coach.

Anyhow, Weis and Shanahan probably wouldn't and won't be a good combo. Weis and Cowher on the other hand...

Well to be honest I didn't hear the name and then run out and check him out. Several times earlier I had asked people to inform me as to why they thoought he would be a good candidate. I'm not just going to willy nilly agree that someone should be a good candidate because a few people are riding his jock. On another site people where doing the same thing, not sure if it wasn't the same people but I again asked what was so special about him. No one answered. I coulda, shoulda, Wiki'd him prior to opening my mouth I guess but as you would do with most of your friends you would simply say why do you think he would be a good candidate. With out a decent answer ...I'm seeing a college coach who must have come from the pros and failed. Got fired at the college level. One could say if you can't make it at the college level you aren't going to make it at the NFL level.

I was open to the reasoning. One was "just cause he didn't make it at the college level does not mean he can't make it at the NFL level." I agreed.

I didn't look into him but you guys pointed out he used to be a OC with the Patriots during their SB yrs.

This is when I took the time to look into him. I can be swayed with reasonable information which was lacking on this site other then to say ..."Lets get Charlie Weis." All I needed was the "Why do you think he would be a good choice" and you guys answered it.

I mentioned Carmichael and Christensen cause they are with winning teams right now. I presume they had something to do with that. I'm not DS who would most likely be looking deeper into whether they would or would not be great coach's here, I was simply suggesting other people who I presumed were OC for their teams or had a roll in making them a winning team. Plus they were young.

I could simply keep putting up a post saying

"I want Marty Schottemheimer...get er done."

but I didn't. I like to think I open for suggestions and conversations about those suggestions. Besides we would not have had such a great posting session had I simply said " No I still think he sucks, lets get Marty.".....and yes I know you guys have already said Marty is not wishing to come back.