Col. Van T. Barfoot vs. the HOA

saden1 · 12-05-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

The news I saw said they did have bylaws against free standing flag poles but I think they can mount one on like a porch. In this case the HOA should use some common sense and give a one time exception to the rule. The biggest problem with bylaws the minute you let one person slip on the rules the harder it becomes to inforce any of the rules. In my parents neighborhood so many people broke a little rule here and there now the bylaws are worthless. My dad was on the board and warned them this would happen but he did not really care for them to start with.

One time exception to the rule eh? What are you going to tell his next door neighbor when he decides to put up the Vietnamese flag on pole too?

No exceptions! You either change the bylaws, move out, sue or stfu.

mlmdub130 · 12-05-2009, 03:46 PM

this is america why can't show show pride in your country they should make an exception if you have a f-ing medal of honor

MTK · 12-05-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

One time exception to the rule eh? What are you going to tell his next door neighbor when he decides to put up the Vietnamese flag on pole too?

No exceptions! You either change the bylaws, move out, sue or stfu.

I agree. Making exceptions only opens the floodgates for more "exceptions", and then where do you draw the line? HOA's may be a pain it's up to you to know what you're getting in to before you buy.

dmek25 · 12-05-2009, 04:37 PM

what power does the HOA have, exactly?

mlmdub130 · 12-05-2009, 04:47 PM

they can bitch and whine and eventually fine you, i hate hoa's in theory they have a good purpose but you can't let some worthless pos with nothing better to do that walk around with a clipboard trying to find things wrong run it

dmek25 · 12-06-2009, 07:30 AM

what happens if you don't pay the fine?

budw38 · 12-06-2009, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

what happens if you don't pay the fine?

Good question , as I do not know if the HOA's have any legal authority . If Col. Barefoot were 60 yrs old I could see the HOA caring about this , but he is 90 and I understand most people cannot see the flag , or flagpole unless you are in almost directly in front of the house . As far as someone flying another flag < ussr/france > , this is the USA and our flag is Red White and Blue .

Daseal · 12-06-2009, 10:17 AM

EITM had this story about a week or so ago, and they had a president of an HoA call in to answer the question about what if he doesn't pay the fine. Basically, they put a lien on his property when he dies. They get their money.

Trample the Elderly · 12-06-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by saden1

One time exception to the rule eh? What are you going to tell his next door neighbor when he decides to put up the Vietnamese flag on pole too?

No exceptions! You either change the bylaws, move out, sue or stfu.

Seeing how homeboy served in South Vietnam too, he just might!

BDBohnzie · 12-07-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

what happens if you don't pay the fine?

Depending on the HOA bylaws, the HOA can put a lien on your house until the fines are paid.

mredskins · 12-07-2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

Depending on the HOA bylaws, the HOA can put a lien on your house until the fines are paid.

Yup you can not sell your home until all your fines are paid up and the issues are resolved.

HOA's are only as good the folks that run them.

I live in a townhouse and I think the HOA is usefully, we have some orginally owners left in our development who bought their home for like 90K or 100K, they now sell for 275k-300K, and they are not doing the up keep. There is like three of them left and you can point them out just by standing in the street. I guess it is a money issue for them, every one else has replaced roofs, painted, repaired siding, cleaned the brick, etc...not them though. I know the HOA is on them and I have seen all of them starting to do stuff.

If you hate your HOA then I suggest you join them or start attending meetings. If you don't like HOA's then don't move into a neigborhood that has one. In MD at least you have I belive 10 days to read over the HOA rules and if you don't like them you can back right out of the deal. The one problem is if you live i nan area like NOVA it is going to be hard to find a non-HOA hood.

MTK · 12-07-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

Yup you can not sell your home until all your fines are paid up and the issues are resolved.

HOA's are only as good the folks that run them.

I live in a townhouse and I think the HOA is usefully, we have some orginally owners left in our development who bought their home for like 90K or 100K, they now sell for 275k-300K, and they are not doing the up keep. There is like three of them left and you can point them out just by standing in the street. I guess it is a money issue for them, every one else has replaced roofs, painted, repaired siding, cleaned the brick, etc...not them though. I know the HOA is on them and I have seen all of them starting to do stuff.

If you hate your HOA then I suggest you join them or start attending meetings. If you don't like HOA's then don't move into a neigborhood that has one. In MD at least you have I belive 10 days to read over the HOA rules and if you don't like them you can back right out of the deal. The one problem is if you live i nan area like NOVA it is going to be hard to find a non-HOA hood.

Damn ain't that the truth right there.

We haven't had any bad experiences with our HOA... yet. But we've certainly heard our share of nightmare stories.

FRPLG · 12-07-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Damn ain't that the truth right there.

We haven't had any bad experiences with our HOA... yet. But we've certainly heard our share of nightmare stories.

Exactly. HOAs in my experience are pains in the ass not because of their very existence and purpose but because the people who run them are jackasses. It's like universal. You have to be a douche to be on the board. The problem here isn't the rules its that they decided to not let him fly the flag. They should have just let him. If others complained you print out his wiki and tell them to spin. But since they are hellbent on enforcing the rules then he shouldn't get special treatment. It would just be bad now.

mredskins · 12-07-2009, 11:13 AM

Waiting for TMC to weigh in, I beleive he hates HOA's to the highest degree.

firstdown · 12-07-2009, 12:45 PM

I have one of those neighbors which having HOA would be nice. This dude left a ladder leaning and extended to his roof of his 2 stry home for 2 1/2 years. His fence is falling down which I keep putting back up so I don't have to look at the crap in his yard. He has a new riding lawn mower but has not used it in 3 months and the two other broken down lawn mowers are sitting in their yard where they probably broke down. The only good news is that his back yard backs up to our side yard and we only have one window on that side of the house to see his crap. If I'm correct he is unemployeed and his car is sitting there when I leave for work and when I return so he has plenty of time to work in his yard. Him in his wife have spent the past 3 weekends putting up christmas stuff but they have not touched the yard. Lazy people should be forced to rent. LOL

12-05-2009, 03:46 PM	#17
mlmdub130 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Woodbridge, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,238	Re: Col. Van T. Barfoot vs. the HOA this is america why can't show show pride in your country they should make an exception if you have a f-ing medal of honor __________________ "I don't think anybody should have regrets, especially me, ... You don't regret what you do in your life. If you do it, you do it for a reason." ST21

12-05-2009, 04:37 PM	#19
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 64 Posts: 10,672	Re: Col. Van T. Barfoot vs. the HOA what power does the HOA have, exactly? __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

12-05-2009, 04:47 PM	#20
mlmdub130 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Woodbridge, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,238	Re: Col. Van T. Barfoot vs. the HOA they can bitch and whine and eventually fine you, i hate hoa's in theory they have a good purpose but you can't let some worthless pos with nothing better to do that walk around with a clipboard trying to find things wrong run it __________________ "I don't think anybody should have regrets, especially me, ... You don't regret what you do in your life. If you do it, you do it for a reason." ST21

12-06-2009, 07:30 AM	#21
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 64 Posts: 10,672	Re: Col. Van T. Barfoot vs. the HOA what happens if you don't pay the fine? __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

12-06-2009, 10:17 AM	#23
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 8,341	Re: Col. Van T. Barfoot vs. the HOA EITM had this story about a week or so ago, and they had a president of an HoA call in to answer the question about what if he doesn't pay the fine. Basically, they put a lien on his property when he dies. They get their money. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

12-07-2009, 11:13 AM	#29
mredskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 13,231	Re: Col. Van T. Barfoot vs. the HOA Waiting for TMC to weigh in, I beleive he hates HOA's to the highest degree. __________________ When life gives you paper jams, turn them into paper footballs!

12-07-2009, 12:45 PM	#30
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 62 Posts: 15,817	Re: Col. Van T. Barfoot vs. the HOA I have one of those neighbors which having HOA would be nice. This dude left a ladder leaning and extended to his roof of his 2 stry home for 2 1/2 years. His fence is falling down which I keep putting back up so I don't have to look at the crap in his yard. He has a new riding lawn mower but has not used it in 3 months and the two other broken down lawn mowers are sitting in their yard where they probably broke down. The only good news is that his back yard backs up to our side yard and we only have one window on that side of the house to see his crap. If I'm correct he is unemployeed and his car is sitting there when I leave for work and when I return so he has plenty of time to work in his yard. Him in his wife have spent the past 3 weekends putting up christmas stuff but they have not touched the yard. Lazy people should be forced to rent. LOL

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