Better kickers available?

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

He was no better than Suisham, he missed a lot of big FG's too.

Obviously you don't remember him; he was a lot better than Suisham.

[atomicnixon]

What about Dave Rayner? Didn't he kick well in the preseason? What about the Gramatica brothers? I'd even let Hunter the Punter try, he's been solid rushing, passing, and punting.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by atomicnixon

What about Dave Rayner? Didn't he kick well in the preseason? What about the Gramatica brothers? I'd even let Hunter the Punter try, he's been solid rushing, passing, and punting.

In hindsight, I like that idea, at least from chippy range. Hunter is an athlete, which he has clearly demonstrated with his footspeed on his TD run and his arm strength on the TD throw. I'm pretty sure he'd nail a 23 yard FG too.

Swishy is a choker. We've already cited the Seattle playoff game (35 yards) which would have put us up 4 with all the momentum. How about his piss poor 2nd half last year, which started unraveling when he was short from 45 yards against Dallas in a Sunday night game that was a close game. The guy will hit meaningless kicks all day, but he's swishy when you need solid with a big game on the line.

[WaldSkins]

Any word of the press conference on this matter?

[tryfuhl]

I made longer kicks in middle school as the backup. There's no excuse to miss a 23 yarder other than the holder putting the ball down horizontally.

[celts32]

Why bother? He deserved to be cut in Seattle a couple years ago for that 30 yard miss that cost us a playoff win...but at 3-9 what's the point? Finish out the season and let the new regime decide who the kicker should be going forward.

[Monkeydad]

I was campaigning for him to be cut before the season began. I knew his lucky streak could not continue all season, he's always been atrocious.





Someone call Nick Novak.

[BDBohnzie]

You can search the boards for the amount of times I've backed Suisham. I can't do it anymore.

While cutting him is a knee-jerk reaction, at worst, you get a warm body in for 3 weeks that you release come January. At best, you get a guy that comes in, kicks well, and you can throw into a competition come training camp.

To me it's not knee-jerk. Twice in three weeks, with the game on the line, Suisham has not done his job. He's failed to deliver. That's the thing about kickers...it's all mental. They can all kick the ball 75+ yards on the kickoffs, and hit 50-60 yard field goals. However, the mentally strong ones can do so under pressure. Suisham has proven he cannot. How many times have good kickers had bad years and fallen off the face of the earth?

Here's to hoping Vinatieri plays this weekend, so the Colts cut Stover and the Skins can pick him up.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

You can search the boards for the amount of times I've backed Suisham. I can't do it anymore.

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Here's to hoping Vinatieri plays this weekend, so the Colts cut Stover and the Skins can pick him up.

You can search the board before the season started when I said CUT SHUISHAM!

Stover would be an incredible pickup.

Heck, Carney was benched for some reason by the Saints, let's make an offer for him.

Sure they're old, but kickers can last forever, look at Gary Anderson/Morton Anderson and even Jeff Feagles...they all showed up to play when they were old enough to have kids as teammates.

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by Buster

Heck, Carney was benched for some reason by the Saints, let's make an offer for him.

Biggs: Saints must put Carney on short leash | National Football Post

I guess Carney has been struggling. He hasn't been cut yet, but I could see them releasing Carney if Hartley does well again this weekend. Very strange, yet here we are debating on whether we should keep a floundering kicker, when a 12-0 team have no problems making a switch whatsoever, with their season on the line...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

Biggs: Saints must put Carney on short leash | National Football Post

I guess Carney has been struggling. He hasn't been cut yet, but I could see them releasing Carney if Hartley does well again this weekend. Very strange, yet here we are debating on whether we should keep a floundering kicker, when a 12-0 team have no problems making a switch whatsoever, with their season on the line...

A floundering kicker who at the end of the day is still 18 of 21 on the season.

Carney is 45 years old, has no range, and doesn't kick off, so of course they are looking at cutting him.

[CRedskinsRule]

Suisham alone didn't cost the game, but that FG would have forced the Saints to score twice in regulation. There would have been no JC pass that was intercepted, and only if we failed to recover an expected onside kick would we have lost that game. I think Suisham should get cut, and we bring in someone to audition for the next 4 games. Simple enough. Is it gonna fix the Skins, no but it gives the team someone to evaluate. Remember Suisham's kickoffs land at the 10 yard line, so we aren't sacrificing an excellent KO guy either.

[Bigreds77]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Suisham alone didn't cost the game, but that FG would have forced the Saints to score twice in regulation. There would have been no JC pass that was intercepted, and only if we failed to recover an expected onside kick would we have lost that game. I think Suisham should get cut, and we bring in someone to audition for the next 4 games. Simple enough. Is it gonna fix the Skins, no but it gives the team someone to evaluate. Remember Suisham's kickoffs land at the 10 yard line, so we aren't sacrificing an excellent KO guy either.

Believe me they would of found away for the Saints to score twice. Once in awhile they fix games & this was one of them.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Bigreds77

Believe me they would of found away for the Saints to score twice. Once in awhile they fix games & this was one of them.

Ridiculous assertion. But playing along, let's also assert that someone texted Suisham with a certain Caymen Islands number. And maybe Ocho tweeted it to him and the code was that he would wear a sombrero if the money was in the account.

Sorry guys, there was no fix, the Skins lost, plain and simple. For someone to have the fix on, they would have had to expect the Skins to be in the game, and most profi's weren't expecting that at all. If the Saints had shaved points, maybe, but the Skins had that game in their grasp, and as they have done before, they lost it. Was there poor officiating, yeah, maybe, but the Skins get that kick and the Saints lose. Pretty simple.

[CrustyRedskin]

id take Morten Anderson right now!!