Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Saints)

[Bozzy]

What I don't get is that on that punt that hit a Redskin and was recovered by a Saint....the Saint that recovered it had just come from OUT OF BOUNDS.

I thought it was a penalty to TOUCH THE BALL FIRST when you go out of bounds?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Bozzy

What I don't get is that on that punt that hit a Redskin and was recovered by a Saint....the Saint that recovered it had just come from OUT OF BOUNDS.

I thought it was a penalty to TOUCH THE BALL FIRST when you go out of bounds?

Good question. I guess they are saying because the Redskin touched the ball essentially he didn't touch the ball first. The question is did he establish him self as being back in bounds? He only came back in bounds about 2-3 yrds and was only there for a few seconds prior to jumping on the ball.

I understand the Ed Hochuli rule but I still say it should not have been a reviewable play since the Ref on the ground called it "Down by Contact." Secondly....why did it take forever for JC to get the ball off so it would not get reviewed? I kept yelling at the tv for them to hike the ball. If nothing else take the penalty for false start for not having all your men set and worse case scenario punt the ball deep.

People are saying that the Moore interception should have been reveresed and ruled incomplete pass because I guess they are saying Fox had a side view showing the ball hitting the turf prior to bouncing up into Moore's hands.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Bozzy

What I don't get is that on that punt that hit a Redskin and was recovered by a Saint....the Saint that recovered it had just come from OUT OF BOUNDS.

I thought it was a penalty to TOUCH THE BALL FIRST when you go out of bounds?

It hit Barnes, so he was the first to touch it.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Bozzy

What I don't get is that on that punt that hit a Redskin and was recovered by a Saint....the Saint that recovered it had just come from OUT OF BOUNDS.

I thought it was a penalty to TOUCH THE BALL FIRST when you go out of bounds?

Bozzy:

He was not the first guy to touch the ball. The Skins player who was hit by the punt touched it first after the Saints' player had re-established himself on the field of play.


BTW, on the replay, there should have been a flag on one of the Skins for blocking that Saints' player while he was still out of bounds. Flag never came out...

[sportscurmudgeon]

A couple of points here:


1. Mike Williams should be allowed to play guard but should never be allowed to play tackle. He played well yesterday. He has shown in several games that he cannot play OT. Of course, Heyer and Jones have also shown that they can't play OT very well...


2. Go look at the replays of the final minutes of regulation time yesterday. After Haynesworth left the field with an injury, he was back in the game on the Saints' final drive. Either he was so injured that he should not have been on the field or he just didn't feel like trying at the end of the game. Watch him - - not the ball - - when you see the replays. He was walking toward the QB and barely made contact with the OL. What's up with that??? :confused:


3. The saying on Wall Street is that one time is an occurrence, twice is a coincidence and three times is a trend. Three weeks in a row, the Redskins defense gave up the ghost when it needed a stop or a takeaway. There are lots of other circumstances that set up those situations but this week the Skins led by a TD with 2:00 to play and the Saints were 80 yards away with no timeouts. :vomit:


4. When Sherm Lewis showed up as "another pair of eyes", the Skins were 2-4. Since he has been here, the Skins are 1-5. But the offense has gotten better... Fill in the blanks here. :frusty:


5. Fred Davis picked up a blitz in the 2nd quarter. That may be a first...

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

2. Go look at the replays of the final minutes of regulation time yesterday. After Haynesworth left the field with an injury, he was back in the game on the Saints' final drive. Either he was so injured that he should not have been on the field or he just didn't feel like trying at the end of the game. Watch him - - not the ball - - when you see the replays. He was walking toward the QB and barely made contact with the OL. What's up with that??? :confused:

I did watch him a few times yesterday, and on more than one occasion, he took a play off as you describe. And this was before his "injury" in the 4th quarter. It's blatantly obvious he takes plays off. When Golston went down, he went to one knee immediately to the point where one of the trainers was huddled around him and stayed there until Golston was off the field. However, it's a catch-22 since when he's in there, he draws doubles and triples which have allowed the rest of the D line the ability to rush.

I'm really not 100% sure what to think of it. Obviously I would want him on point 100% of the time, but at the same time, his disruptive nature is also blatantly obvious (Without AH, the rush defense against the Cowboys: 153 yards, 0 TDs; against the Eagles: 123 yards, 1 TD; against the Saints with AH: 55 yards, 0 TDs). The Saints may have a great pass offense, but their rush offense ranks 5th in the NFL (and that includes yesterday's horrific showing).

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Bozzy:

He was not the first guy to touch the ball. The Skins player who was hit by the punt touched it first after the Saints' player had re-established himself on the field of play.


BTW, on the replay, there should have been a flag on one of the Skins for blocking that Saints' player while he was still out of bounds. Flag never came out...

Yep, that was actually Barnes. I was pretty surprised that there was no flag, there definitely could have been.