Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Saints)

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's amazing how some people just can never give Cerrato and the front office credit for anything. Yeah so they tested the waters for Sanchez. So what? A lot of teams did. That's what front offices do. You explore all options. Yes we need to improve in certain areas (namely OL) but we do have several quality young players and the front office should get some credit for that.

VC tried all he could to get Cutler. Allegedly, giving up several high draft picks, right?

VC tried all he could to get Sanchez, giving up multiple draft picks. He couldn't get him.

We were one of the finalists in getting each of the above two. If we would have gotten one of the them, it would have perhaps mortgaged our future even more. More of the same right?

I give VC credit for his record w/ the Skins while he's been here. It's not good. Sure, he gets some credit for some draft picks, but let's face it, Orakpo was a pretty clear pick and even though we've seen some good things the jury is still out of our 3 #2's from two years ago.

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Originally Posted by redsk1

VC tried all he could to get Cutler. Allegedly, giving up several high draft picks, right?

VC tried all he could to get Sanchez, giving up multiple draft picks. He couldn't get him.

We were one of the finalists in getting each of the above two. If we would have gotten one of the them, it would have perhaps mortgaged our future even more. More of the same right?

I give VC credit for his record w/ the Skins while he's been here. It's not good. Sure, he gets some credit for some draft picks, but let's face it, Orakpo was a pretty clear pick and even though we've seen some good things the jury is still out of our 3 #2's from two years ago.

If Orakpo was such a clear pick why did other teams pass on him and why are a lot of people here saying we should have taken Oher instead?

People confuse the rumors about trading multiple picks to get Cutler or Sanchez (who I still think will be a very good QB, but that's neither here nor there) with the realities of testing the market for those guys. But that's fine, it is what it is. Cerrato has gotten to a point here (as has Snyder to a large extent) where any success that may lie ahead is deemed as in spite of him instead of in any way thanks to him. This is probably why he needs to go. Even it's for Shanahan (who is not a better solution as head coach/GM than VC-Zorn in my opinion). Just so the fans can believe there's a change being made. Regardless of whether the change is for the better.

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

If Orakpo was such a clear pick why did other teams pass on him and why are a lot of people here saying we should have taken Oher instead?

People confuse the rumors about trading multiple picks to get Cutler or Sanchez (who I still think will be a very good QB, but that's neither here nor there) with the realities of testing the market for those guys. But that's fine, it is what it is. Cerrato has gotten to a point here (as has Snyder to a large extent) where any success that may lie ahead is deemed as in spite of him instead of in any way thanks to him. This is probably why he needs to go. Even it's for Shanahan (who is not a better solution as head coach/GM than VC-Zorn in my opinion). Just so the fans can believe there's a change being made. Regardless of whether the change is for the better.

I think Cutler can be a great qb and Sanchez may too. I just think they were more than "testing the market" though. We almost had Cutler here in DC. It was that close.

VC has done more harm than good though and I can't see how that can be disputed. He's got a bad record, he's got a bad reputation around the league, and he's makes alot of bad decisions. I'm not saying we should just change just to make a change. We should change b/c we want more out of our GM.

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Originally Posted by redsk1

I think Cutler can be a great qb and Sanchez may too. I just think they were more than "testing the market" though. We almost had Cutler here in DC. It was that close.

VC has done more harm than good though and I can't see how that can be disputed. He's got a bad record, he's got a bad reputation around the league, and he's makes alot of bad decisions. I'm not saying we should just change just to make a change. We should change b/c we want more out of our GM.

I could see it working out something like this

Snyder: I want this Cutler kid
Cerrato: How badly?
Snyder: VERY
Cerrato: So I guess that I should get on the phones
Snyder: Well then get to that
Cerrato: At what cost?
Snyder: What do you think?
Cerrato: Dan, if you want him I'll try, but we can only give up so much
Snyder: How much is that?
Cerrato: Something short of 2 1st rounders
Snyder: Well, see what you can do