Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Saints)

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Man stop the Haynesworth hate, that dude balls throughout the game. Yeah it sucked that he went down, and yeah the first play back he just stood, but the next play he bullrushed the OL guy, so a bit of that "taking a play off" plays to setting up the OL guy. I've seen him chase across the line of scrimmage, and on the 4th and 1 play he was 2 yards deep penetrating to stop them. This falls under the "least of worries" category

with us losing games late i think it's a bit of concern, and we need him out there instead of takin a break.

don't get me worng he is a beast when he is on the field. the only problem is he is winded or "hurt" when we need him most.

which is another thing that comes back to coaching imo.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

with us losing games late i think it's a bit of concern, and we need him out there instead of takin a break.

don't get me worng he is a beast when he is on the field. the only problem is he is winded or "hurt" when we need him most.

which is another thing that comes back to coaching imo.

Hey he hadn't had a helping of nachos and so he was tired.

sometimes fans perspectives are simply unbelievable...

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Hey he hadn't had a helping of nachos and so he was tired.

sometimes fans perspectives are simply unbelievable...

what is so unbelievable about him being winded/hurt being a direct result of our coaching discipline or lack there of?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

what is so unbelievable about him being winded/hurt being a direct result of our coaching discipline or lack there of?

The man weighs 300ish pounds, he goes from standstill to benchpressing one or two equal forces pushing against him. Every D-lineman gets winded and many get hurt. It's a ridiculous (in my opinion) assertion that a man who plays balls to the wall when he is in is suddenly an undisciplined behemoth because of our coaching scheme. as SS remarked, this is the way he has always played. Here, Tennessee. He is a force for 60-70% of the Defensive snaps, thats what he does. and we knew coming in that he would miss a game or two. That's who he is. Nothing I have seen from him has been different than what we were shown in the past two seasons, and it is well worth the pay to bring someone in on DLine that instantly improves every other DLine player.

But some people think these guys are robots, who by some miracle conditioning program don't tire or get hurt. That is what is so unbelievable. I weigh 215 (on a good day) when I rough and tumble with my sons, or even with my brother I get worn out quickly enough, let alone if it was pure brutality like it is in those trenches.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The man weighs 300ish pounds, he goes from standstill to benchpressing one or two equal forces pushing against him. Every D-lineman gets winded and many get hurt. It's a ridiculous (in my opinion) assertion that a man who plays balls to the wall when he is in is suddenly an undisciplined behemoth because of our coaching scheme. as SS remarked, this is the way he has always played. Here, Tennessee. He is a force for 60-70% of the Defensive snaps, thats what he does. and we knew coming in that he would miss a game or two. That's who he is. Nothing I have seen from him has been different than what we were shown in the past two seasons, and it is well worth the pay to bring someone in on DLine that instantly improves every other DLine player.

But some people think these guys are robots, who by some miracle conditioning program don't tire or get hurt. That is what is so unbelievable. I weigh 215 (on a good day) when I rough and tumble with my sons, or even with my brother I get worn out quickly enough, let alone if it was pure brutality like it is in those trenches.

maybe he is playing more than i'm seeing to me it feels like he is playing 50% of the snaps couldn't find anyhing online, you make good points i guess i'm just jaded by the way we went after him when we could have made other moves, i just hate seeing him on the sideline on 3 and 7, and doing his injury routine, hopefully he will grow on me

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

with us losing games late i think it's a bit of concern, and we need him out there instead of takin a break.

don't get me worng he is a beast when he is on the field. the only problem is he is winded or "hurt" when we need him most.

which is another thing that comes back to coaching imo.

So it's Haynesworth fault the secondary sucks?

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

So it's Haynesworth fault the secondary sucks?

no i didn't say anything to that effect, when his is out there he makes our secondary look good because of the rush he creats if anything

my point is that he is not out there on a lot of clutch plays and i feel that is the result of coaching staff being soft, and trying to be too buddy buddy

which i feel is also relevant in many other areas of the team