Our next coach??

[SmootSmack]

There's so much talk of it being nearly a lock that Shanahan will be the next coach here...but I can't shake the feeling that something else is up. That there's someone else who's being secretly lined up.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There's so much talk of it being nearly a lock that Shanahan will be the next coach here...but I can't shake the feeling that something else is up. That there's someone else who's being secretly lined up.

The more I hear it's a lock the more I doubt it happening. Remember Grilliams and Fassel were 'locks' at one point in '08.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There's so much talk of it being nearly a lock that Shanahan will be the next coach here...but I can't shake the feeling that something else is up. That there's someone else who's being secretly lined up.

Please let it be Cowher....

To be honest, if we can't land Cowher, i'm on board from promoting Lewis and Meidt: Lewis as HC and and Meidt as OC. Lewis is old, but the spark he's brought this team is undeniable. If he didn't want the job (and at his age, i'd understand), then i'm all for promoting Gray or bringing back GG. basically, our offense finally seems like its clicking and, unless we bring in Cowher, I don't want to see it change.

To be honest, I would no longer be as upset if Vinny sticks around. His 2008 draft picks all seem to be panning out nicely and he was on the money bringing in Lewis. Of course, if the rumors are true about Vinny bad-mouthing Snyder around the league, he might be gone no matter what.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Please let it be Cowher....

To be honest, if we can't land Cowher, i'm on board from promoting Lewis and Meidt: Lewis as HC and and Meidt as OC. Lewis is old, but the spark he's brought this team is undeniable. If he didn't want the job (and at his age, i'd understand), then i'm all for promoting Gray or bringing back GG. basically, our offense finally seems like its clicking and, unless we bring in Cowher, I don't want to see it change.

To be honest, I would no longer be as upset if Vinny sticks around. His 2008 draft picks all seem to be panning out nicely and he was on the money bringing in Lewis. Of course, if the rumors are true about Vinny bad-mouthing Snyder around the league, he might be gone no matter what.

I thought it might be Cowher, but he's apparently not in the mix at all. Shanahan still the rumored lead-but if Houston and/or Dallas come calling it will be a tough sell. Steve Mariucci not interested in moving east. If Houston lets Kubiak go...I'd like to consider him, but he's not an option right now. If Dallas hires Mike Shanahan, Jason Garrett could be an option...but I don't see it because of the backlash that would create (though I don't think that should dictate the decision). Brian Billick not being discussed as far as I know, though my gut still tells me he's in the picture. Other guys like Ron Meeks could get interviewed again. But I think at that point they're more likely to just stick with Zorn. And then there's Pete Carroll who is rumored to be near the top of a couple of team's lists (though not the Redskins) and who spoke at length with the Redskins the last time around.

As always, January-April will be fun for Redskins fans

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I thought it might be Cowher, but he's apparently not in the mix at all. Shanahan still the rumored lead-but if Houston and/or Dallas come calling it will be a tough sell. Steve Mariucci not interested in moving east. If Houston lets Kubiak go...I'd like to consider him, but he's not an option right now. If Dallas hires Mike Shanahan, Jason Garrett could be an option...but I don't see it because of the backlash that would create (though I don't think that should dictate the decision). Brian Billick not being discussed as far as I know, though my gut still tells me he's in the picture. Other guys like Ron Meeks could get interviewed again. But I think at that point they're more likely to just stick with Zorn. And then there's Pete Carroll who is rumored to be near the top of a couple of team's lists (though not the Redskins) and who spoke at length with the Redskins the last time around.

As always, January-April will be fun for Redskins fans

I've read that Cowher's not in the mix at all myself, but I simply can't beleive he wouldn't be. He's the "biggest fish" out there and I don't see how Snyder could help himself. I realize that the current organizational structure here isn't what Cowher (or any respectable coach) would want, but i think its understood that the organizational structure here would change to suit a guy like Cowher. Gibbs return to the Skins came out of left field. So did Zorn's hiring. I think whatever happens, its going to take most of us completely by surprise. I simply don't see Zorn staying though. After a season that will likely end at or below 5-11, Snyder can't keep him around. It would be a PR nightmare. Besides that, Zorn is really just an impotent figurehead right now. If Snyder can't land ahis "big fish," I think promoting Jerry Gray or Sherm Lewis becomes the most likely option.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

To be honest, I would no longer be as upset if Vinny sticks around. His 2008 draft picks all seem to be panning out nicely and he was on the money bringing in Lewis. Of course, if the rumors are true about Vinny bad-mouthing Snyder around the league, he might be gone no matter what.

Do we know that Cerrato came up with Lewis though? I mean I guess you can give him credit for saying we have to bring someone in. I have a hunch that Zorn asked Holmgren and Holmgren recommended Lewis; of course I have nothing to base that on, but just a thought.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Do we know that Cerrato came up with Lewis though? I mean I guess you can give him credit for saying we have to bring someone in. I have a hunch that Zorn asked Holmgren and Holmgren recommended Lewis; of course I have nothing to base that on, but just a thought.

I am pretty sure its been reported that it was Cerrato's decision to bring in someone, although in an interview I think it Cerrato let it slip that he didn't even really know who Lewis was... I think its likely that Cerrato asked Blache if he knew anyone who could do the job and Blache recommended Lewis. (Remember, it wouldnt be the first time Cerrato or Snyder had asked Blache to "betray" his boss.)

Zorn definitely was not involved in the process and was opposed to the whole idea of bringing in someone else. I also think we can definitively say that whomever recommended Sherman, it wasnt Holmgren - he's publically bashed the skins for bringing in someone else and embarrassing Zorn in that way.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I am pretty sure its been reported that it was Cerrato's decision to bring in someone, although in an interview I think it Cerrato let it slip that he didn't even really know who Lewis was... I think its likely that Cerrato asked Blache if he knew anyone who could do the job and Blache recommended Lewis. (Remember, it wouldnt be the first time Cerrato or Snyder had asked Blache to "betray" his boss.)

Zorn definitely was not involved in the process and was opposed to the whole idea of bringing in someone else. I also think we can definitively say that whomever recommended Sherman, it wasnt Holmgren - he's publically bashed the skins for bringing in someone else and embarrassing Zorn in that way.

Ahh yeah I wasn't thinking about the Blache connection

I know that when Zorn told Cerrato he was in that they were supposed to figure out who it was going to be.. that's where my speculation comes from

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Do we know that Cerrato came up with Lewis though? I mean I guess you can give him credit for saying we have to bring someone in. I have a hunch that Zorn asked Holmgren and Holmgren recommended Lewis; of course I have nothing to base that on, but just a thought.

Mariucci recommended Lewis to Cerrato

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Mariucci recommended Lewis to Cerrato

Really, now thats interesting. Whats the Cerrato-Mooch connection?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Really, now thats interesting. Whats the Cerrato-Mooch connection?

Bill Walsh...they were both with the 49ers though I can't remember if it was at the same time. Anyway, Mooch made the recommendation that Lewis be the extra set of eyes the Redskins were looking for. Mooch and Lewis I believe were together in Detroit

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Bill Walsh...they were both with the 49ers though I can't remember if it was at the same time. Anyway, Mooch made the recommendation that Lewis be the extra set of eyes the Redskins were looking for. Mooch and Lewis I believe were together in Detroit

Hmmm, in that case, I could envision Mooch coming in as HC and keeping Lewis as OC... regardless of whether he wants to leave the west coast, i think Mooch would work anywhere, and for pennies, if he were offered a head coaching position.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Bill Walsh...they were both with the 49ers though I can't remember if it was at the same time. Anyway, Mooch made the recommendation that Lewis be the extra set of eyes the Redskins were looking for. Mooch and Lewis I believe were together in Detroit

Vinny joined the 49ers in 1991 and got promoted to player personnel director in 1995 one year before John McVay retired from the 49ers in 1996. He was there during the Seifert era. Lewis and Vinny might not have been together since Lewis left for GB in 1992 or maybe were together for just a few months.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Mariucci recommended Lewis to Cerrato

Ahh thanks for that.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Mariucci recommended Lewis to Cerrato

Mooch was my personal favorite for the coaching job last year. If they brought him in and got a respectable talent evaluator then I could die happy.