Ganther likely to start vs Oakland and other notes from Sherm Smith interview

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by firstdown

There was a reason Mason was not with another team and I'm guessing we will see why this new kicker was not on another team. I hope I'm wrong about the new kicker but if he was any good he would have been on a team.

Kickers seem to have a much less linear path to success (no pun intended) than most positions outside of qb. Some seem to struggle & then find their groove, only to lose it again. Seems like its the position w/the highest turnover in the nfl. ONly a handful of teams have kept kickers long term in the salary cap era.

Remember that Norvell cut David Akers, who then went on to Philly & has had quite a career since.

With Gano, I hope he's at that point that he starts to find his groove. He's got a 3 year deal w/1 guaranteed so he'll have his chances this year & next.

[Questfor31]

I've picked up Ganther for fantasy football. Looking to start the guy at the flex position. Saw his six yards per carry average and thought it was a good idea ... until I started reading this thread that is.

[CRedskinsRule]

FD, Gano was a rookie, he got picked up by Baltimore, (who has recently cut their other kicker) and after preseason went right into the UFL, where he kicked a championship game winner. I don't know how good Gano will be, but I don't think he is like a lot of other re-treads out there, or Mason, who has bounced from PS to PS. Hopefully he finds a home here.

[Monkeydad]

Gano nearly won the kicking competition vs. Hauchka or whatever his name was in Baltimore.

They probably regret the choice they made, like us.

[MTK]

Ganther looks good, could be a real gem.

[Paintrain]

Redskins Insider - Zorn elaborates on RB rotation

I really want to like Rock, I do, but I don't get where he gets this impression that he's Jim Brown in waiting but he just hadn't gotten the chance.

Originally Posted by Rock Cartrwright

"It's kind of hard for a RB to get in a rhythm when you have five carries in the first half, then you don't carry the ball again until the second half," Cartwright said. "It's hard to produce that way. Going in the game [and] telling the back you're gonna take two series and this guy's gonna take two series, it's hard to get hot. You're doing RB by committee, you got to go off a feel, who's playing better. When you give somebody five carries in the first half, they don't play again until the second half, of course you can't expect somebody to go out and be fresh right then.

"It doesn't matter who it is. I think you have to give a RB the opportunity to get a rhythm. You can't go into the game saying, we're gonna give you two series, we're gonna give this guy two series, we're gonna give this guy two series. When you're doing RB by committee, you can ask any RB in the league, if you go in the game and you get five carries and not get another carry until the second half - what do they expect? I think I might've had five carries for 20-some-odd yards in the first series and then I don't carry the ball again until the second half? I mean, that's crazy."

2 points. First point-Why does he act like he's the best RB to never get a chance? He had opportunities and didn't capitalize on them. Deal with it, know your role and limitations and excel within them. Second point-If this was Portis or another highly paid player saying this fans would be ALL over him. Why does Rock get a pass?

Anyways, I hope Ganther does well and provides a solid presence in the running game..

[duetsch215]

everyone in the NFL has an ego...they have to. And he is exactly right. You cant go into a game with a set plan of personnel and plays because it never happens the way you want it to. You have to play it by ear. That means that if anyone on your team is hot, keep them in there even if your play sheet says not to.

[SmootSmack]

I thought I heard that Rock told Zorn and Danny Smith that if he's not starting he would rather just play special teams.

Anyway, Rock fails to realize that the Redskins took advantage of Campbell's hot hand and the weaknesses in the Saints secondary. Meanwhile Rock had three carries for like 1 yard in the first half if I remember right. Ganther had two for 10 yards.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I thought I heard that Rock told Zorn and Danny Smith that if he's not starting he would rather just play special teams.

Anyway, Rock fails to realize that the Redskins took advantage of Campbell's hot hand and the weaknesses in the Saints secondary. Meanwhile Rock had three carries for like 1 yard in the first half if I remember right. Ganther had two for 10 yards.

New Orleans Saints vs Washington Redskins
12/6/2009 at FedExField
First Half Summary
Q.Ganther 3 21 7.0 13 0
R.Cartwright 5 20 4.0 16 0

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by 30gut

New Orleans Saints vs Washington Redskins
12/6/2009 at FedExField
First Half Summary
Q.Ganther 3 21 7.0 13 0
R.Cartwright 5 20 4.0 16 0

pretty identicle, but ganther has the edge on pass blocking, the more i hear about this it seems like it is somthing rock might be blowing out of proportion. from everything i've heard it's that ganther will get "the first carry" nothing along the lines of ganther will play and rock won't.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

2 points. First point-Why does he act like he's the best RB to never get a chance? He had opportunities and didn't capitalize on them. Deal with it, know your role and limitations and excel within them. Second point-If this was Portis or another highly paid player saying this fans would be ALL over him. Why does Rock get a pass?

Anyways, I hope Ganther does well and provides a solid presence in the running game..

i would say he did in dallas, and isn't there already a rock\ganther thread

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

i would say he did in dallas, and isn't there already a rock\ganther thread

There is I'm going to merge that one into this one since this one has more recent info

[SmootSmack]

Correction, he did have one carry that went about 15 yards. So it wasn't 1 yard. Either way, I understand his frustration but it's pretty clear that Ganther is more explosive

[Hog1]

Rock has always been a solid player in relief, and a great teams guy.
He has been years with the team and had............MANY coaching eyes observing him. You would think if he some as yet undiscovered and miraculous talent, it would have been noticed.
Close your mouth and do your job. Be happy you have the coolest job on the planet?

[sportscurmudgeon]

My problem with Thomas as the kick returner is that too often he gets stopped at or inside the 20. That is a killer; most of the time he is returning a kick because the other team scored; the offense needs field position.

Cartwright may not be a blazer, but in the last 5 years that he has been returning kicks, I don't think he's been stopped inside the 20 more than once or twice...