Jurgensen thinks Campbell will be back

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by saden1

I think JC should be back. I think I lot of the problem he was having was due to Zorn's play-calling and o-line protection.

I'd say that most of Campbell's problem was his trust in Zorn's play-calling and Zorn's trust in him.

I think most people were wrong in assuming that an improved o-line play would be a greater impact than an improved quarterback play (regardless of how the o-line was performing).

The offensive line has NOT played overwhelmingly better in the past 4-5 games, but Campbell has. His improved play has the redskins offense significantly playing better as a whole. I think the argument that I made before the redskins offense was performing better is being proven now - there is no greater impact on a team than how the quarterback is playing.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I'd say that most of Campbell's problem was his trust in Zorn's play-calling and Zorn's trust in him.

I think most people were wrong in assuming that an improved o-line play would be a greater impact than an improved quarterback play (regardless of how the o-line was performing).

The offensive line has NOT played overwhelmingly better in the past 4-5 games, but Campbell has. His improved play has the redskins offense significantly playing better as a whole. I think the argument that I made before the redskins offense was performing better is being proven now - there is no greater impact on a team than how the quarterback is playing.

I was watching KJ interview Campbell following the Raiders game and he seemed super relaxed and confident. I've never seen him quite like this following a game.

She asked how much has Sherm Lewis affected his play. He said the offense basically changed gears from, and I'm paraphrasing, a dink and donk to a more intermediate/down the field passing game. He also pointed out how they've put the game in his hands. Said he was thinking too much, and they told him to just go out and play. Even during timeouts, he would come to the sidelines and Zorn would tell him to do whatever it takes to keep the chains moving. If he could run, then run it. If there's a pass down field, then take it. Those are his marching orders now. He made that point to her. I found that interesting.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I'd say that most of Campbell's problem was his trust in Zorn's play-calling and Zorn's trust in him.

I think most people were wrong in assuming that an improved o-line play would be a greater impact than an improved quarterback play (regardless of how the o-line was performing).

The offensive line has NOT played overwhelmingly better in the past 4-5 games, but Campbell has. His improved play has the redskins offense significantly playing better as a whole. I think the argument that I made before the redskins offense was performing better is being proven now - there is no greater impact on a team than how the quarterback is playing.

I don't know man...in the last five games the O-Line has allowed 8 sacks (3 against the Broncos, 1 against Cowboys, 1 against Eagles, 0 against Saints, 3 against Raiders). The eight games before that they allowed 28 sacks (3.5 sacks a game then and 1.6 sacks a game now). I think it would be foolish to say QB play is independent of O-Line play and vice versa is true.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by saden1

I don't know man...in the last five games the O-Line has allowed 8 sacks (3 against the Broncos, 1 against Cowboys, 1 against Eagles, 0 against Saints, 3 against Raiders). The eight games before that they allowed 28 sacks (3.5 sacks a game then and 1.6 sacks a game now). I think it would be foolish to say QB play is independent of O-Line play and vice versa is true.

Here we go again... with qb play vs. o-line play. I'm not trying to say they are independent of each other, but I think qb play has the greatest impact on the team by far.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Here we go again... with qb play vs. o-line play. I'm not trying to say they are independent of each other, but I think qb play has the greatest impact on the team by far.

Yeah but you can't solve a picture puzzle with pieces missing. Games really are won and lost in the trenches. JC has been making plays with his feet as well and he deserves credit but let's not forget the big guys upfront.

BTW I do think Zorn is the new Steve Spurrier and his ineffectiveness was at display the first 8 games of the season.

[ashvirtually]

Originally Posted by saden1

Yeah but you can't solve a picture puzzle with pieces missing. Games really are won and lost in the trenches. JC has been making plays with his feet as well and he deserves credit but let's not forget the big guys upfront.

BTW I do think Zorn is the new Steve Spurrier and his ineffectiveness was at display the first 8 games of the season.

Thank you. It is a symbiotic relationship. The line may not be playing "overwhelmingly" well (it isn't, it's lacking serious depth, it's a patchwork that's fighting to stay viable), but it is playing an arseload better than before the bye ... this, in turn, is affecting how J-Cam is playing, you can tell he trusts them ... and then they in turn play better and so forth. Add to that the improved play-calling and we have what we have now.

The problems we face and faced were never primarly Campbell's fault. That the team is playing better now is not just the result of him playing better.