BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

How the hell are people complaining? We just got rid of Vinny Cerrato. This day should be declared a holiday. Kids should be let out of school, shops should close, and people should come home from work.

Because people like to complain for the sake of complaining and pull stuff out of their asses and say they are facts.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Because people like to complain for the sake of complaining and pull stuff out of their asses and say they are facts.

You mean people pull facts from history at share it with people who have thier head burried so deep in the sand they can't see what's going on? Allen's record speaks for itself. Under 500. he's no Messiah. Everyone WANTS him to be, but there's nothing in his record to suggest that he's going to be a "real GM" here or that he will bring any measure of success to this team.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

You mean people pull facts from history at share it with people who have thier head burried so deep in the sand they can't see what's going on? Allen's record speaks for itself. Under 500. he's no Messiah. Everyone WANTS him to be, but there's nothing in his record to suggest that he's going to be a "real GM" here or that he will bring any measure of success to this team.

Division titles and 1 Super Bowl appearance are nothing? Shit, this is worst than the time you proposed a straight trade between Campbell and Chris Simms.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Division titles and 1 Super Bowl appearance are nothing? Shit, this is worst than the time you proposed a straight trade between Campbell and Chris Simms.

lol I don't remember that but damn,

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

lol I don't remember that but damn,

Allow me...

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I've had some more time to think, and have come up with the changes I would like to see made to our starting team in 2009...

COMMENTS
*Jason Campbell Traded to Tennessee for Chris Simms, straight up. Jason Campbell is an ideal fit for Tennessee's offense. Chris Simms is an ideal fit for our offense. Its a good deal for both teams. Maybe we could get a low-round pick in addition to Simms for Campbell, but I don't think Vinny is that good of a negotiator.
**2nd round pick acquired via trade for Carlos Rogers. Normally, I wouldnt like the move, but Asomugha is a clear upgrade over Carlos, and this move would garner us a draft pick.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

You mean people pull facts from history at share it with people who have thier head burried so deep in the sand they can't see what's going on? Allen's record speaks for itself. Under 500. he's no Messiah. Everyone WANTS him to be, but there's nothing in his record to suggest that he's going to be a "real GM" here or that he will bring any measure of success to this team.

Well let's remember that he did field some very good teams in Oakland when he was there and won NFL executive of the year in 02. Would he have been my first choice? No. But let's give the guy a chance. And let's remember that every GM misses on draft picks.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well let's remember that he did field some very good teams in Oakland when he was there and won NFL executive of the year in 02. Would he have been my first choice? No. But let's give the guy a chance. And let's remember that every GM misses on draft picks.

According to BHA that didn't exist.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well let's remember that he did field some very good teams in Oakland when he was there and won NFL executive of the year in 02. Would he have been my first choice? No. But let's give the guy a chance. And let's remember that every GM misses on draft picks.

Well said, very well said.

And anyone that thinks any GM is going to act independently of what the entire organization wants or without heavy input from the coach and owner is kidding themselves, seriously kidding themselves. You think Tony Dungy and Jim Irsay, in spite of Bill Polian, didn't have major input on roster moves? You think Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft, in spite of Scott Pioli, didn't have major input on roster moves? That doesn't make Polian and Pioli "yes men"

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well said, very well said.

And anyone that thinks any GM is going to act independently of what the entire organization wants or without heavy input from the coach and owner is kidding themselves, seriously kidding themselves. You think Tony Dungy and Jim Irsay, in spite of Bill Polian, didn't have major input on roster moves? You think Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft, in spite of Scott Pioli, didn't have major input on roster moves? That doesn't make Polian and Pioli "yes men"

We need a "No" man. "Excuse me, Mr. GM, Peyton Manning just became a free agent, should I contact him. "NO". But what about "NO". Seriously I need to "NO". Hey guys whats up "NO".

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well let's remember that he did field some very good teams in Oakland when he was there and won NFL executive of the year in 02. Would he have been my first choice? No. But let's give the guy a chance. And let's remember that every GM misses on draft picks.

Yep.. and who's to even say that we could've landed our top pick? The guy after that, maybe even the next, etc?