Report: Shanahan to DC done deal

[redskins5044]

we need a major change in the way of thinking in our FO, i hope allen can talk some sense into synder. i know there is hype about getting shannan in here, and he is a proven coach. but i think maybe we should look at a different coach to bring in. bringing in shannan would be what we have been doing, which is bringing in the big name.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by redskins5044

we need a major change in the way of thinking in our FO, i hope allen can talk some sense into synder. i know there is hype about getting shannan in here, and he is a proven coach. but i think maybe we should look at a different coach to bring in. bringing in shannan would be what we have been doing, which is bringing in the big name.

We brought in Zorn and wheres that got us?

[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

We brought in Zorn and wheres that got us?

Zorn was not a change in thinking, that was vinny and danny getting a puppet as a coach.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

We brought in Zorn and wheres that got us?

and Spurrier.

[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

and Spurrier.

yet again the big name guy.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by redskins5044

yet again the big name guy.

Who do you recommend as our next coach?

[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

Who do you recommend as our next coach?

do you want to see a change in they way the skins do things? ever since synder has owned the team he has gone after big name players and coaches here. i want them to get the right coach for the job, not a guy looking for a big payday. maybe a hot coordinator in the league, aka someone who wants to be here to build a team not a paycheck.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by redskins5044

yet again the big name guy.

I have to ask who you would prefer also...

Spurrier was not a big named coach. He was supposed to be the big up and comer out of college which is why we got him. He failed miserably.

Zorn was supposed to be the non big name up and comer offensively. Supposedly other coach's in the league said Zorn would be a great pick for OC. He was going to be a great minded coach. Unfortunatly we picked up and moved him to HC.

Now it sounds like you want the GM to make the call.....what if he picks a big name? or a no name? will you be satisfied knowing finally DS is doing it the right way and allowing a GM to build a team or are you going to complain for what ever reason? I mean I prefer Schottenheimer. I don't see us picking him. I prefer Gruden next, but he's supposedly tied up in his contract.

But I'm atleast happy the team is finally going to do it the right way hopefully by picking a GM.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I have to ask who you would prefer also...

Spurrier was not a big named coach. He was supposed to be the big up and comer out of college which is why we got him. He failed miserably.

Zorn was supposed to be the non big name up and comer offensively. Supposedly other coach's in the league said Zorn would be a great pick for OC. He was going to be a great minded coach. Unfortunatly we picked up and moved him to HC.

Now it sounds like you want the GM to make the call.....what if he picks a big name? or a no name? will you be satisfied knowing finally DS is doing it the right way and allowing a GM to build a team or are you going to complain for what ever reason? I mean I prefer Schottenheimer. I don't see us picking him. I prefer Gruden next, but he's supposedly tied up in his contract.

But I'm atleast happy the team is finally going to do it the right way hopefully by picking a GM.

I agree that Snyder backing the eff off is great thing. I was listening to 980 early this morning, and Hanrahan was saying that Bruce Allen's job won't really be personnel. He's going to be an administrative guy, handling organizational structure, player contracts, things of that nature.

As far as picking players, they were saying that will be in large part Mike Shanahan's job. That concerns me a bit. He wasn't a great personnel guy in Denver by any means. Shanahan will also likely be team president. I guess I'm worried about how expansive his role will be. I'm much rather he just coach, but then again if that's all we wanted from him we probably couldn't get him.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I agree that Snyder backing the eff off is great thing. I was listening to 980 early this morning, and Hanrahan was saying that Bruce Allen's job won't really be personnel. He's going to be an administrative guy, handling organizational structure, player contracts, things of that nature.

As far as picking players, they were saying that will be in large part Mike Shanahan's job. That concerns me a bit. He wasn't a great personnel guy in Denver by any means. Shanahan will also likely be team president. I guess I'm worried about how expansive his role will be. I'm much rather he just coach, but then again if that's all we wanted from him we probably couldn't get him.

Allen will have two main focuses. First get rid of all the dead weight on the team. Then he will make sure the coach gets what they need, which is not always the same thing as what they want. Gruden has talked about this before. How he and Allen would go back and forth a lot because Allen was determined to make sure Gruden had the right players he needed, but not always what he wanted.

I'd also prefer that Shanahan just coach, but as you say it's not possible to just get him as head coach. I'm curious to see what happens with the staff below Allen.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I agree that Snyder backing the eff off is great thing. I was listening to 980 early this morning, and Hanrahan was saying that Bruce Allen's job won't really be personnel. He's going to be an administrative guy, handling organizational structure, player contracts, things of that nature.

As far as picking players, they were saying that will be in large part Mike Shanahan's job. That concerns me a bit. He wasn't a great personnel guy in Denver by any means. Shanahan will also likely be team president. I guess I'm worried about how expansive his role will be. I'm much rather he just coach, but then again if that's all we wanted from him we probably couldn't get him.

This is what has always confused me. One would think the HC and coaching staff would know what type of players they need to fit into their system. I guess it's nice to have scouts to go out and look at these players and physically get an idea of how well they play and how well they might work out, but to have a GM totally picking your players when he's not the one coaching them is crazy to me. Plus with Cerrato when he was here he is more of a WCO GM or where he hailed from. Norv, Marty, Spurrier, and Gibb2 are not WCO style of coach's which I would assume make Cerrato's duty even harder. Maybe why Cerrato did better the last 2 yrs with Zorn....Thomas, Davis, and Ganther.

I'm guessing to ease all your minds Shanahan will present who he would like to both DS and Allen and all three will decide. Kinda like what Gibbs was doing.