Return Of Lavar

[offiss]

Originally Posted by CRT3

And who did we have at the time of Lavaars signning at linebacker? Jesse Armstead and Jermiah Trotter. We go rid of old dead wood that was costing us a ton of cash. We spent more cash on the linebackers Arrington 1st then Barrow and Washington. 2 of the 3 were out with injuries and we had back ups step up. They did not know the backups would play above themselves and they did not know that 2 years ago when they resigned Lavaar.

So the question remains would we be a better football team with Lavaar? Character, athletic ability, and dominance as a football player clearly wins. He is better then any other backer out there.

Go back to one of my previous post's for the answer on that one, 60 mil would help our need's on offense much more than what Lavar bring's to the table, he's been living off his reputation as a phenomonal athlete coming out of Penn State, we could have a #1 defense next year without Lavar, we won't do much more than we did this year on offense if we don't address our need's, and his contract is not helping, he's a tremendous athlete but a slightly better than average LB who was easily replaced this past year. He's on his way to becoming the Jeff George of LB's only he's much more well liked. I base Lavar on his ability to play the position not his athletic abilities.

By the way who is he better than? On our own team he may not be better than M. Washington, and he certainly doesn't have the football smart's of Pierce, I have to assume you were talking about our LB's, that statement couldn't have been broad enough to include the rest of the NFL.

Take a good look at Sean Taylor now there's a football player, he had a better rookie season than any 1 of Lavar's season's. Taylor is what happen's when you combine athletic ability with football smart's in which Lavar is lacking.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by offiss

Take a good look at Sean Taylor now there's a football player, he had a better rookie season than any 1 of Lavar's season's. Taylor is what happen's when you combine athletic ability with football smart's in which Lavar is lacking.

I really have to disagree, I think Taylor and Arrington are so much alike in their playing styles it's not even funny. Taylor had a good rookie year, better than Arrington's 11 sack season a couple years ago? I don't think so.

They're both very aggressive and instinctive players who are going to make some spectacular plays. They're also both going to commit their share of whiffs on tackles and boneheaded penalties. Both of them are so physically gifted I think they tend to rely on their physical skills more than the mental portion of their game.

I really don't see what's different about the way they both play and approach the game.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I really have to disagree, I think Taylor and Arrington are so much alike in their playing styles it's not even funny. Taylor had a good rookie year, better than Arrington's 11 sack season a couple years ago? I don't think so.

They're both very aggressive and instinctive players who are going to make some spectacular plays. They're also both going to commit their share of whiffs on tackles and boneheaded penalties. Both of them are so physically gifted I think they tend to rely on their physical skills more than the mental portion of their game.

I really don't see what's different about the way they both play and approach the game.

When I wrote that I was thinking about just that the 11 sack's, but he was playing end not LB when he got those sack's and he was in a position where he didn't have to think, Lavar did get 11 sack's but he wasen't a disruptive force like Taylor, as well Taylor isn't going to rack up the sack's he disrupt's the passing game which he effect's from the secondary far greater than Lavar's pass rush, Lavar is not going to outmuscle TE's or tackles, I said it when we drafted him I didn't see an LT in him he will have to beat guy's with speed, you could get more sack's from smaller player's if you put them on the end position they will beat a big tackle with just pure speed, the problem with that is they will run the ball right down your throat, now Gibb's said something that was right on in his talk forum yesterday going to a 3-4 on passing down's and forcing the guard to have to get back and block Lavar now there's the way to use him, I agree with Gibb's he's to fast which will force team's to keep their TE's and back's in the backfield. In order for Lavar to have success he has to be mismatched against RB's I have seen plenty of TE's who have been able to lock him up 1 on 1 that wasen't even thought of with a LB like L.Taylor, unfortuantly we are paying him as if he was.

[CRT3]

Originally Posted by offiss

He's on his way to becoming the Jeff George of LB's only he's much more well liked. I base Lavar on his ability to play the position not his athletic abilities..

What position has he played the last 3 years He has been bounced from part time end on 3rd down, to the SAM, and back to the Weak. So which position are you basing your opion on? JEFF GEORGE, are you seriuosly using him as a comparison to Lavaar? GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK< THAT IS JUST PLAIN STUPID!!!

[/QUOTE]By the way who is he better than? On our own team he may not be better than M. Washington, and he certainly doesn't have the football smart's of Pierce, I have to assume you were talking about our LB's, that statement couldn't have been broad enough to include the rest of the NFL..[/QUOTE]
He is better then Washington and Pierce. Ath the time of his signing the mega contract he clearly was the best. He is a top 5 linebacker in the NFL, and I think you could rate Spikes, Brookings, Lewis, and Urlacher up with him. Grant it they all play different linebacker positions.

[/QUOTE]Take a good look at Sean Taylor now there's a football player, he had a better rookie season than any 1 of Lavar's season's. Taylor is what happen's when you combine athletic ability with football smart's in which Lavar is lacking.[/QUOTE] And he provide how many football smart plays? Did he recieve a few unsportmanlike penalties? Did he get benched during the season. Did he start every game? Did he turn one game around and to enable us to win?